Joe Bagadonuts
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What do you get if you cross Bismak Biyombo with Jimmer Ferdette?
Bismer Furryombo - The greatest basketball player never to have existed!
Biyombo at #3... Why not?!
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Bismer Furryombo - The greatest basketball player never to have existed!
this is my fav Biyombo picture
look at that guy below him, kind of looks like Kanter
Cool, but why mention Kanter .. unless it's, ya know, Kanter.
trigg3r
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+1 I'm defintely game .. just want to get it right .. the Hayward pick taught me a lesson.
NotDeadYet
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Biyombo is only listed as 6'9". Small forward material; way too small for a C. Even at PF he's only SLIGHTLY taller than Paul Millsap, but lighter... Don't see him as a #3 pick.
BENTLEY
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His standing reach is 9' 3".
Dwight Howard's is 9' 3.5".
Also he weighs the same as Howard did coming into the league.
UtahJazzV4FTW
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3 is a reach for sure, but if KOC wants to go for it, there'd be no pitchfork in my hand. My only real concern would be if Favors can get himself to the 20-22 ppg game range. We need one of them to be able to score...
BENTLEY
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David Thorpe talks about Biyombo
I posted this in the draft thread but thought it probably shoulda been posted here.
https://www.libertyballers.com/2011/6...rumors-nba-cba
I wonder if his strong defensive motor would permeate thru the team. His mere presence might make everyone better on that side of the ball.
I posted this in the draft thread but thought it probably shoulda been posted here.
https://www.libertyballers.com/2011/6...rumors-nba-cba
I wonder if his strong defensive motor would permeate thru the team. His mere presence might make everyone better on that side of the ball.
Basketball_Romantic23
Banned
^ This.
I agree with trading down to get Biyombo, but I also like Knight at #3- even if his ceiling is Jason Terry, I don't see why KOC would Pass on him. Don't like Kanter! His game seems to be the 2nd coming of Carlos Boozer; he can rebound and score, but does not play defense. If we can trade up from 12 to 6-10 I think that would be legit, but if not i Think we draft at 12 in this order: Biyombo, Burks, Singleton, Jimmer, and Thompson, and Tobias Harris
prodigy
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While they didn't win titles they were one of the best defensive teams in the league. Stock-Malone were pretty young when Eaton was in his prime. Always a what if factor when talking about Eaton, what if we had him in his prime in the mid 90's. Gotta believe we would have won at least one title.
BENTLEY
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And Eaton had no offensive game. He was merely a defensive force.
I think a defensive anchor is a huge ch!nk in the armor of a team, and on the other end someone has to be the 5th option.
The only thing that bothers me with Biyombo is his lousy FT%. I wish it was more like Valanciuncas'. But it's not like Dwight Howard is a good FT shooter and we'd all love to have him on our team.
Can someone tell me what the difference is between Biyombo now and Dwight, Ibaka, and Favors at the time they were drafted? Hell, I'm still not sure what Favors bankable NBA skill is. He was drafted that high because he had a great body and a good head on his shoulders, he didn't show anything of note at Georgia Tech. Howard hadn't done anything anywhere (unless you take high school competition as actual competition). Ibaka was doing the same thing Biyombo was doing almost exactly. Biyombo has already shown me more than Favors or Howard, and his physical profile is straight up superior to Favors. What the hell am I missing?
Howard, Ibaka, Favors = Supreme physical talents with work-ethic/good heads on their shoulders
Biyombo = Supreme physical talent with great work ethic/great head on his shoulders.
"Because he's 22 or 23 I heard" is not a response. Nor is something about Sene (he hadn't proven jack-**** to anyone anywhere). Same goes with a comparison to Fesenko. Dropping into the ACB and becoming an absolute force at 18 is nothing to sneeze at, especially when he comes into the U.S. and craps all over team U.S.A. in the same season (which is more than Kanter could say). At that point, people should be EXCITED he's as raw as he is and still able to impact the game like he does.
Whatever the case, if KOC can predict whose going where on the draft like I've heard Greg say he can, then grab Biyombo as late as you can get away with. But draft him.
Howard, Ibaka, Favors = Supreme physical talents with work-ethic/good heads on their shoulders
Biyombo = Supreme physical talent with great work ethic/great head on his shoulders.
"Because he's 22 or 23 I heard" is not a response. Nor is something about Sene (he hadn't proven jack-**** to anyone anywhere). Same goes with a comparison to Fesenko. Dropping into the ACB and becoming an absolute force at 18 is nothing to sneeze at, especially when he comes into the U.S. and craps all over team U.S.A. in the same season (which is more than Kanter could say). At that point, people should be EXCITED he's as raw as he is and still able to impact the game like he does.
Whatever the case, if KOC can predict whose going where on the draft like I've heard Greg say he can, then grab Biyombo as late as you can get away with. But draft him.
Favors and Dwight both have fabulous hands, absolutely critical for a big man. Biyombo has terrible hands, pretty much eliminates you from being an offensive player on the block.
Favors and Dwight grew up playing the game, so they understand the ins and outs, biyombo is a new comer still trying to learn a lot of the basics.
Favors and Dwight grew up playing the american game, biyombo is learning the international game, although the game is more similar now than ever before, it's still one more obstacle to overcome that even the best Europeans have struggled with.
Dwight and favors were raw, but they are nowhere near biyombo raw, as was tweeted by dx earlier, biyombo was air balling lay ups at his work out this morning.
Favors and Dwight grew up playing the game, so they understand the ins and outs, biyombo is a new comer still trying to learn a lot of the basics.
Favors and Dwight grew up playing the american game, biyombo is learning the international game, although the game is more similar now than ever before, it's still one more obstacle to overcome that even the best Europeans have struggled with.
Dwight and favors were raw, but they are nowhere near biyombo raw, as was tweeted by dx earlier, biyombo was air balling lay ups at his work out this morning.
margodydek
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DraftExpress was tweeting from Treviso this morning and commenting on Biyombo's workout. The guy was airballing layups. For those who criticize Kanter for going against chairs, at least he could outscore them.
billyshelby
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The best hope for Biyombo slipping is that most lottery teams are looking for guys who have potential to be impact players, and impact usually means offensive skills. So if they think he's never going to progress past Tyson Chandler, they're more likely to roll the dice on somebody else. I also think Thabeet helps with the psychology. He was supposed to be a defensive ace at minimum. Yes, I'm talking myself into this but I don't think its unrealistic he could slip to 12.
Gyp Rosetti
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I think we need to draft Kanter at 3 and use him to trade down and acquire Knight. I feel like we need to cross our fingers that Biyombo drops to 12 and if he doesnt have a deal in place to move up and get him.
I love Kanter but I'd rather have a Knight (great character, the type of guy who seems like he'd stay here long-term, leader, clutch shooter, young, high iq, hard worker, two time Gatorade POTY) and Biyombo (insane defensive presence alongside Favors, young, greater leader, high iq).
Are Biyombo and Favors raw on the offensive end, of course. But they're so young that it's not a concern at all. Especially for Favors who I think will develop. It's even less of an issue because we have a 20/10 guy in Jefferson and Millsap who can score 20 on any given night.
In short, we need to get Knight and Biyombo out of this draft. Then, I'd love if we've acquired a later pick via a trade or buying it, I'd love to get a 3...Parsons!!!
I love Kanter but I'd rather have a Knight (great character, the type of guy who seems like he'd stay here long-term, leader, clutch shooter, young, high iq, hard worker, two time Gatorade POTY) and Biyombo (insane defensive presence alongside Favors, young, greater leader, high iq).
Are Biyombo and Favors raw on the offensive end, of course. But they're so young that it's not a concern at all. Especially for Favors who I think will develop. It's even less of an issue because we have a 20/10 guy in Jefferson and Millsap who can score 20 on any given night.
In short, we need to get Knight and Biyombo out of this draft. Then, I'd love if we've acquired a later pick via a trade or buying it, I'd love to get a 3...Parsons!!!