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Boston vs Utah for Hayward

I think Hayward can sign a 1x1 max deal with Utah and still qualify for mega-max during the next 2 seasons if he makes All NBA. He's close.
 
ncoloradojazz said:
Can't believe the disrespect y'all showing Thomas. He is better then ANY single player the jazz havd. Notice how he lead his team to the conference finals. and people wonder why jazz fans are always considered the worst when it comes to NBA teams.lmao. With or without Hayward y'all are going nowhere. Warriorz, spurs, rockets are all set up better for futures and Denver,Portland and OKC all have pieces that make for a better future. Jazz fans are like the average girl at school who thinks she hot **** and ends up all alone because of her snobby attitude. Y'all might not like it,y'all night even deny it but it's the truth. Do any of you honestly see the Jazz winning a title in the next 10 years?20 years? Only way it happens if Jazz leave Utah and please change the name of your team. Jazz music was probably banned in Utah back in the days when it was starting out
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How's the midget IT doing against the Cavs ? Lol. He ain't taking them anywhere. Basketball is for tall people.
 
Catchall said:
Gordon's best move financially is to sign a 1x1 max extension with the Jazz and see if he can make All NBA during the next one or two seasons. He just made his first All Star game and took another step forward in the Playoffs. He could make All NBA next year if things break right for him.
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Or he could get injured, or his play could degrade, and he never gets a long-term max. Is Gordon a gambling man?
 
Catchall said:
I think Hayward can sign a 1x1 max deal with Utah and still qualify for mega-max during the next 2 seasons if he makes All NBA. He's close.
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silesian said:
Or he could get injured, or his play could degrade, and he never gets a long-term max. Is Gordon a gambling man?
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Thought about this the other day, but I agree with silesian, and it's not like he would be signing for chump change.
 
That Boston is getting thrashed this bad, even worse than we did against Golden State, and their whole team is 100% healthy reinforces the fact that Boston is not better than the Jazz in any way shape or form. I hope gordon is watching closely.
 
fallenchicken said:
That Boston is getting thrashed this bad, even worse than we did against Golden State, and their whole team is 100% healthy reinforces the fact that Boston is not better than the Jazz in any way shape or form. I hope gordon is watching closely.
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If Boston signs Hayward they are going to have a plan to trade for Jimmy/PG and trade IT. Not sure how much this series changes Hayward's mind. Utah lost pretty badly to Golden State too. I know we had Hill injured, but the reality might be we cant even bring Hill back. Which outlook is more grim? Returning to a similar Utah team sans Hill or going to a Boston team that could get a huge face-lift getting yourself (Hayward) and Jimmy Butler plus w/e assets IT can return?
 
You're right, if Boston trades for Jimmy Butler or Paul George and completely shakes up their roster it's a different story. But I think only then does it become a conversation. They don't have a player of the caliber of Gobert or Hayward on this team as of right now. And that's really obvious. Because yes GS beat us handily (as they will beat the Spurs, and Portland before us), but we didn't get beat this bad. We weren't this incompetent. We were able to do some things against them, put pressure on them. We really could have won game 3 if Hill had played. And you say we can't bring back Hill... but if that's true then that just puts us in the same position as Boston: we have to sign some people over the summer. There are other good point guards attainable. And we do have a pretty good chance with signing Hill assuming Gordon is willing to sign too.
 
I don't know that I see Paul George getting traded early in the offseason. I believe they'll hold out a little -- hold out long enough that a lot of the FA dominos will have fallen (Hayward). I'd also have a hard time believing Chicago agrees to an early deal with Boston that doesn't include this year's pick -- again after Hayward will have to make a decision. This all works in our favor.
 
fallenchicken said:
You're right, if Boston trades for Jimmy Butler or Paul George and completely shakes up their roster it's a different story. But I think only then does it become a conversation. They don't have a player of the caliber of Gobert or Hayward on this team as of right now. And that's really obvious. Because yes GS beat us handily (as they will beat the Spurs, and Portland before us), but we didn't get beat this bad. We weren't this incompetent. We were able to do some things against them, put pressure on them. We really could have won game 3 if Hill had played. And you say we can't bring back Hill... but if that's true then that just puts us in the same position as Boston: we have to sign some people over the summer. There are other good point guards attainable. And we do have a pretty good chance with signing Hill assuming Gordon is willing to sign too.
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It will be infinitely easier for Utah to come up with a serviceable to good point guard than for Boston to find a player like Gobert. Hell, a healthy Favors is the equal of Al Hoford when considering impact on both sides of the court.
 
infection said:
I don't know that I see Paul George getting traded early in the offseason. I believe they'll hold out a little -- hold out long enough that a lot of the FA dominos will have fallen (Hayward). I'd also have a hard time believing Chicago agrees to an early deal with Boston that doesn't include this year's pick -- again after Hayward will have to make a decision. This all works in our favor.
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Danny Ainge isn't giving up that pick. He wouldn't even give up last year's less useful picks.
 
If I was a Celtics fan, I'd want to keep the picks instead of going into "Win-Now" mode right now in the Warriors/LeBron era. Give yourself a chance to peak right when they go away.
 
framer said:
Danny Ainge isn't giving up that pick. He wouldn't even give up last year's less useful picks.
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I know that. What I am saying is that the Bulls wouldn't trade Butler at the fresh open of 2017-2018 for next year's Brooklyn pick. They'll want this year's pick, which they won't get. If they decide to trade and settle for next year's pick, it won't be in early or mid July -- they'll try to hold out.

Bottom line: I don't see Boston being able to land Butler or George before they can make a pitch for Hayward.
 
MT Steve said:
If I was a Celtics fan, I'd want to keep the picks instead of going into "Win-Now" mode right now in the Warriors/LeBron era. Give yourself a chance to peak right when they go away.
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Kinda what im thinking too.
Especially since you already have a really good team anyway. Don't even have to tank at all.

Celtics are so lucky. Really no wrong thing they can do at this point.
 
fishonjazz said:
Kinda what im thinking too.
Especially since you already have a really good team anyway. Don't even have to tank at all.

Celtics are so lucky. Really no wrong thing they can do at this point.
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Give up assets for Paul George, they have a bad season due to subpar interior defense, George leaves for the Lakers. That seems pretty wrong.
 
framer said:
Give up assets for Paul George, they have a bad season due to subpar interior defense, George leaves for the Lakers. That seems pretty wrong.
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Getting George woudl be better for them, but yeah, getting him is risky if he doesnt agree to an extension. It's also way more expensive in the LT with George instead of Butler.
 
framer said:
Give up assets for Paul George, they have a bad season due to subpar interior defense, George leaves for the Lakers. That seems pretty wrong.
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They won't give up big assets for george.

They might do this year's #1 pick and that's all. (That would be enough btw)

Then, worst case scenario, they have jaylen brown, a top three pick next year, Marcus smart (#5 pick in Exum's dtaft), Isiah thomas, crowder, bradley, horford.

Still looking good.

They can't screw this up. They are set up too good.
 
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