*Breaking News* Kawhi Wants Out

[The Midnight]

Honestly SA isn't going to get market value simply because they feel they may be renting him. If I'm Cleveland, I go all in K.Love, their #8 draft pick, something else? As an NBA fan I actually want Cleveland to do what they can to get him even if it's unlikely. If they can get him in Cleveland, it may keep Lebron in a Cavs jersey. The Cavs probably don't have enough to get him, but I'd rather see him go there than anywhere almost. It would make for a much more competitive league, and not another super team. If Cleveland loses Lebron they're done anyway, they should throw whatever they can in a package and try to land him even if for one season.

The only problem I see is why would the Spurs want Love when they already have Aldridge? Also not sure the #8 pick is enough for them to reboot their franchise... they would want a player of the future going forward.

 

[Bodhi]

Well who would play the PG if they trade Kyrie?

They can do Brown and Hayward + picks, but if I'm the Spurs I'd rather have Tatum + picks. Brown just isn't a good as prospect as Tatum.

I’m being 1000% serious: do you watch NBA basketball?

 

[The Midnight]

I’m being 1000% serious: do you watch NBA basketball?

Have at it, what's your problem with what I'd said.

 

[Bodhi]

Have at it, what's your problem with what I'd said.

Primarily, “who would play PG if they trade Kyrie”. Other parts as well but that one genuinely begs the initial question.

 

[The Midnight]

Primarily, “who would play PG if they trade Kyrie”. Other parts as well but that one genuinely begs the initial question.

Smart and Rozier aren't close to Kyrie's level...

 

[MDAV28]

I agree Celtics trade Kyrie before Tatum and Brown.

I actually think the Celtics would only offer Kyrie since they both have one year left and there's no guarantee either come back AND they both have serious health concerns. Tatum and Brown are team-controlled.

 

[Bodhi]

Smart and Rozier aren't close to Kyrie's level...

Very true, but who a player is is far from the only considerations in a trade scenario.

I’d take Rozier and Smart with Kawhi, Brown, Tatum and Horford over the roster they are projected to bring back with Kyrie.

Edit: and in this scenario they’d have Hayward too.

 

[LoPo]

I wish these two things would happen:

Spurs trade Kawhi to Cleveland for Love, #8 and some other asset SA might want.

OKC trades Melo to Cleveland for Hill and Clarkson. OKC does it because they want Melo gone for their PG pitch. Cleveland does it to make LeBron happy and shed Clarkson's 2019/20 money.

LeBron then decides to stay in Cleveland and builds a team unique from Boston, Philly, LA and GS. If PG stays, OKC is just okay. If PG goes to LA, they are just okay.

It doesn't solve the GS problem, but maybe we can solve that with smarter, smaller moves.

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[fishonjazz]

Well who would play the PG if they trade Kyrie?

They can do Brown and Hayward + picks, but if I'm the Spurs I'd rather have Tatum + picks. Brown just isn't a good as prospect as Tatum.

Spurs don’t just get to pick who they get in trades. Their guy is leaving. They need to take he best they get offered.

As for who would play pg, they didn’t have kyrie for a lot of last season and they did great with rozier at pg and with isiah Thomas the year before.

 

[Scat]

But being traded to a small market after his dramatic exit would be pretty funny as well.

And back into the west.

 

[Engorged On Unborn Gore]

I don’t know... Buford/Popovich are stone cold killers. Ainge is a cutthroat, but I wouldn’t bet the farm on him vs. Pop. He is primarily adept at acquiring assets. What he has done with those assets hasn’t been exemplary, not on the level of What DL (for example) has accomplished with far fewer assets.

I’m betting SA gets plenty for Kawhi.

 

[The Midnight]

I don’t know... Buford/Popovich are stone cold killers. Ainge is a cutthroat, but I wouldn’t bet the farm on him vs. Pop. He is primarily adept at acquiring assets. What he has done with those assets hasn’t been exemplary, not on the level of What DL (for example) has accomplished with far fewer assets.

I’m betting SA gets plenty for Kawhi.

Agree. You can bet that Buford is gonna play the Lakers off of the Celtics... if the Lakers are offering Ingram, then he's gonna turn around and use that as leverage to get Tatum.

Buford's not gonna settle for Brown, or Hayward. Or a 1 year rental of Kyrie and having to go through this **** show again next year.

 

[Piso]

I hope a trade with Philly.
Leonard+Mills for Fultz+Covington+Draft pick
Lebron arrives and new superteam in the east : Simmons-Leonard-James-Saric-Embiid

 

[The Midnight]

I hope a trade with Philly.
Leonard+Mills for Fultz+Covington
Lebron arrive and new superteam in the east : Simmons-Leonard-James-Saric-Embiid

Um, you've got 4 guys there playing the same position..

 

[Jazz and Utes]

Sad how much more interesting the off season is compared to the regular season

 

[fishonjazz]

Agree. You can bet that Buford is gonna play the Lakers off of the Celtics... if the Lakers are offering Ingram, then he's gonna turn around and use that as leverage to get Tatum.

Buford's not gonna settle for Brown, or Hayward. Or a 1 year rental of Kyrie and having to go through this **** show again next year.

I said this to you before but I will say it again. The Celtics don’t just have to offer brown OR Hayward. They can offer both.
Or they can offer Hayward AND picks or brown AND picks or Hayward AND brown AND picks.

Celtics have more assets than the lakers an they also have better assets.

If the spurs are smart they won’t trade kahwi for less and worse assets to a team in their same conference. Seems much smarter to trade kahwi for better and more assets to a team in the east.

 

[The Midnight]

I said this to you before but I will say it again. The Celtics don’t just have to offer brown OR Hayward. They can offer both.
Or they can offer Hayward AND picks or brown AND picks or Hayward AND brown AND picks.

Celtics have more assets than the lakers an they also have better assets.

If the spurs are smart they won’t trade kahwi for less and worse assets to a team in their same conference. Seems much smarter to trade kahwi for better and more assets to a team in the east.

And I'm telling you if I'm the Spurs I'd rather have Tatum + picks over Hayward & Brown + picks.

Hayward & Brown aren't pieces that's gonna get me to the Championship in the West, but Tatum is.

 

[The Thriller]

If I were Pops I’d ship his *** to Detroit or Cleveland (after Lebron leaves). I’m tired of big name stars crapping on their franchises by forcing deals to more glamorous locations.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

And I'm telling you if I'm the Spurs I'd rather have Tatum + picks over Hayward & Brown + picks.

Hayward & Brown aren't pieces that's gonna get me to the Championship in the West, but Tatum is.

Maybe you are just racist because you hate Troy Brown and Jaylen Brown. What you got against Brown people?

 

[fishonjazz]

And I'm telling you if I'm the Spurs I'd rather have Tatum + picks over Hayward & Brown + picks.

Hayward & Brown aren't pieces that's gonna get me to the Championship in the West, but Tatum is.

Duh. It doesn’t matter what the spurs would rather have the Celtics offer. The spurs just have to take the best offer they can get. And the Celtics can give them the best offer without including Tatum. But again, like I said to you before, the spurs don’t just get to pick and choose who they get. Kahwi is leaving. They have to take the best offer they can get. Boston can offer better and more assets than the lakers even without including Tatum. Nothing the lakers can offer get them to a championship in the west but the Celtics offer gets them closer. Even without Tatum.

By your logic, the spurs should just trade kahwi to the warriors for curry and Durant. But the spurs don’t decide what teams have to include in trades. Celtics don’t need to offer Tatum and they still can offer a better trade than the lakers.