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Brice, Svi and Juzang - the last man standing

If the Jazz are forced to keep just one player out of Brice, Svi and Juzang who should it be?

  • Brice

    Votes: 12 54.5%

  • Svi

    Votes: 1 4.5%

  • Juzang

    Votes: 9 40.9%
  • Total voters
    22
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jazznik

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The Jazz have three very similar players. All of them can play as a SG or a (smaller) SF, all have long contracts and for all of them the ceiling seems to be being a quality backup on a contender. It's almost a certainty that the Jazz will have to include at least one if not two of them in the trades, especially if Cody and Hendricks pan out and the Jazz draft a long-term starting PG or a SG. There simply would not be enough playing time for 3 very similar bench players going forward.

Things to consider:

1. All of them played very similar stats so far (the stats do not include the latest Denver game): 17 MPG, 7-8 PPG, 2 RPG, 1 APG. All shot 40% from the 3.
2. Brice is better at going and scoring inside, Svi is taller and more athletic, Juzang is "Jack of all trades, master of none" (aside from his 3-pt shooting), Brice is really bad on defense.
3. All three have 4-year contracts: Juzang is the cheapest player at 11.6 million per year, Svi is at 14.5 (but his last year is a team option) and Brice's contract is getting steep in his last 2 years with about 18 million in total.
4. Brice is the youngest: he is just 21 and may improve as a scorer and passer although it's unlikely that he ever becomes even an average defender.

So, if the Jazz are forced to keep just one player long-term who should it be? Brice, Svi or Juzang?

P.S. I know that the easiest answer would be "Let them play and decide later!" but the Jazz should be ready to throw some of them in the trades next month if necessary so this question is already relevant.
 
I'm not attached to any of the 3 and would be ok with any or all of them getting included in a trade. I would agree with what I assume the general premise is that you only need/want one of these guys on a good NBA roster.

I picked Brice because of his age, but Juzang would be a close second.
 
Brice. He's improved leaps and bounds since last season and has a great attitude. There's no reason not to keep him and JJ. Svi has been solid as well and he's here for another 3 seasons on a cheap contract. It's a good problem to have as all have been solid. People can **** on our front office but these three have been great for us. Hold onto these guys who contribute for cheap and give us depth as we'd better make a large FA splash. #BIGGAMEHUNTINGORELSE!
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
They are all 3 on minimum contracts or rookie deals. There's no reason to choose between only one ...
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...but eventually we will probably retain only one of them. Ina couple of years. And because all of them are decent players on small contracts other teams would likely want some of them as a sweetener in any trades involving Collins, Sexton or Clarkson - or in trades consolidating the draft picks.
 
Brice. He can actually create and is only 21. He has by far the most upside of the three.

Juzang is more of a one trick pony. He is a poor defender as well. His shooting has been very good.

That said I'd like to see them keep Brice and Johnny.

Svi is 27 and has no more upside. He is filler.
 
I am having a hard time picking between Brice and Juzang. Brice definitely has a higher ceiling, especially if he learns to pass or draw fouls. But Juzang knows his role well, seems to like being in this role in Utah and makes VERY few mistakes. What makes a difference to me is that in 2-3 years Juzang will become much cheaper than Brice (and will, probably, agree to ink his next contract for much less as well).

In 2027-28 the difference in their pay will be 5 million. That's enough to sign another quality bench player: someone like Dunn. Brice will be good but I don't think he will be "two-players good". So, if there is a potential good deal I am throwing Brice in it without any second thoughts and riding it out with Johnny.
 
That Jazz are going to have to make some choices this off season. They currently have 11 players guaranteed for next season (assuming Collins opts in) and they have the following non guaranteed deals to make a decision on: Eubanks, Svi, and Juzang. Obviously this could change based on the trade deadline.

As is we have 3 draft picks and we have 1 open roster spot, so we would need to move on from two of Eubanks, Svi, or Juzang as it stands today.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
That Jazz are going to have to make some choices this off season. They currently have 11 players guaranteed for next season (assuming Collins opts in) and they have the following non guaranteed deals to make a decision on: Eubanks, Svi, and Juzang. Obviously this could change based on the trade deadline.

As is we have 3 draft picks and we have 1 open roster spot, so we would need to move on from two of Eubanks, Svi, or Juzang as it stands today.
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I think that Micah Potter can (mostly) replace Eubanks for way less money.
 
jazznik said:
I am having a hard time picking between Brice and Juzang. Brice definitely has a higher ceiling, especially if he learns to pass or draw fouls. But Juzang knows his role well, seems to like being in this role in Utah and makes VERY few mistakes. What makes a difference to me is that in 2-3 years Juzang will become much cheaper than Brice (and will, probably, agree to ink his next contract for much less as well).

In 2027-28 the difference in their pay will be 5 million. That's enough to sign another quality bench player: someone like Dunn. Brice will be good but I don't think he will be "two-players good". So, if there is a potential good deal I am throwing Brice in it without any second thoughts and riding it out with Johnny.
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The salary you are referring to in 27-28 includes Brice`s qualifying offer. Very, very few players end up on that. The season before the difference in salaries between them is only 2 million and for this season and next, the Ju-Zang Clan actually makes more than Brice.
 
I'd punt on all 3 for our 3 new picks. Brice can't defend or dribble a ball, juzang can't defend, svi has played only a few games. I'd hope for another flip with our lower picks (obviously I'd dump patty mills, etc... before these guys for spots).
 
Don’t need to choose between them because you can play 2-3 wings at any given time so 4-6 of your regular rotation players should be wings. I think Svi gets thrown into a trade a a small sweetener. I think Juzang is the best long term prospect but Brice has a higher ceiling. I’d say it’s Brice, Juzang, Svi and I expect Juzang and Brice to both be on the roster next year.
 
Hedda Gambler said:
The salary you are referring to in 27-28 includes Brice`s qualifying offer. Very, very few players end up on that. The season before the difference in salaries between them is only 2 million and for this season and next, the Ju-Zang Clan actually makes more than Brice.
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In the first two years Juzang will be payed about 300K more than Brice per year: it's a wash. But, if Brice is still on the Jazz in 27-28 he will not be making much less than the QO ( quite likely, it would be more). Nobody would sign the extension that pays considerably less than the qualifying offer and Brice will not extend for any amount comparable to Juzang's 2.8 million. The bottom line is the same: if Brice is still on the team several years from now he will be payed quite a bit more than Johnny.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Don’t need to choose between them because you can play 2-3 wings at any given time so 4-6 of your regular rotation players should be wings.
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It's not so much about the total number of wings (although, even there the Jazz now have too many right at 7). Its more about having a variety of wings. Brice, Svi and Juzang are all non-passing and not great on defense but can really shoot threes. You don't need three of them off the bench.
 
If I had to rank them....

  1. Sensabaugh
    • Has some self-creation upside and is a great shooter. I think he has playmaking upside as well, but that may never actualize if his decision making doesnt speed up and improve. Defense is honestly better than I expected given his defensive reputation in college. Age is what really puts him in the #1 slot.
  2. Juzang
    • Has a potentially elite and valuable skill as a movement shooter. Defense isnt good, but I dont think it's awful either.
  3. Svi
    • Has unlimited confidence and when he's completely set his shot looks beautiful. Probably the best defender of the 3. Issue is he forces some crazy shots at times. Also has a proven track record of being mediocre over the long haul.
 
The money you are quoting is off. Neither Juzang or Svi have guaranteed contracts and could be waived at any time and the jazz would have tononly pay for the rest of this year.

Sensabaugh is on his rookie contract and the 3rd and 4th year's are a team option. So all of them could be off the Jazz next year if they so choose.
 
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