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Bryce Cotton or Trey "4-22 from the field" Burke

Who would you prefer as the Backup PG?

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I totally understand the hate for Burke on here, but some nights he makes the difference in us winning. When he is on that is lol
 
Sexual Favors said:
These justifications are **** at best, and only further cement yourself as an *******.

Claiming your ancestors were cotton pickers, but then acting like you don't know the history is absurd. Impossible to believe that.

Comparing a poster's abrasive style to racism because both are dehumanizing is so far off base that I don't even know how to respond.

Just because, as you claim, the weight of your words were heavier than what you intended, does not make them not racist. Racism exist largely because attitudes such as yours are positively reinforced. So don't say we're overreacting.


If you truly didn't mean what you said, just own up to it first, say you're sorry, and grow. If you had valid reasons, you could try explaining yourself, but the ones you offered aren't believable or valid, so what you responded with just comes off as dickish. It seems like you're more uncomfortable with being called out for what you said, than with how it was understood.
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Fair point. I guess I was wrong and I apologize for my insensitivity but will maintain my intent was innocuous and that the post was in no way meant to be racist.
Btw, I'm curious, if I told you I was 1/8 black would it make you feel any better about the situation? anyway, I just want to apologize to those I offended. Also, I'd like to say that you seem to be saying that dehumanization is okay as long as it's not racism and to that I must say I find fault. I think any form of dehumanization must be taken seriously and that you should really think about it.

Also, I'd like to tell you, sexual Favors, you were dead wrong about Kanter hahaha. I kid man. But seriously. :)
 
Batman said:
Fair point. I guess I was wrong and I apologize for my insensitivity but will maintain my intent was innocuous and that the post was in no way meant to be racist.
Btw, I'm curious, if I told you I was 1/8 black would it make you feel any better about the situation? anyway, I just want to apologize to those I offended. Also, I'd like to say that you seem to be saying that dehumanization is okay as long as it's not racism and to that I must say I find fault. I think any form of dehumanization must be taken seriously and that you should really think about it.

Also, I'd like to tell you, sexual Favors, you were dead wrong about Kanter hahaha. I kid man. But seriously. :)
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No, I didn't say dehumnization is ok. I just don't think comparing a smart *** on a message board to racism are the same thing.

I also don't think I was wrong about Kanter. He is producing in OKC. Was he immature? Yes. Does he play good defense? No. But his rebounding and scoring are going to help OKC a lot when they're all healthy.
 
Also, and correct me if I am wrong Naos, but I suspect Naos took more pleasure in calling me a name and being brash then in standing up for what is right. Anyways, I did make a mistake. Should have been more sensitive and I'm sorry.
 
Sexual Favors said:
No, I didn't say dehumnization is ok. I just don't think comparing a smart *** on a message board to racism are the same thing.

I also don't think I was wrong about Kanter. He is producing in OKC. Was he immature? Yes. Does he play good defense? No. But his rebounding and scoring are going to help OKC a lot when they're all healthy.
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I am gonna have to disagree on Kanter: I don't think he'll ever help his teams win a ton more games because he does not pass and he's really bad on defense. I feel like his 30 point 16 board game says it all and OKC's defense has really gone down hill since he joined. He might not just be a bad defender. He might actually be an unmitigated dumpster fire on defense.
 
Batman said:
3 things:
1- I did not even recognize this could be considered racist. You see, I'm from St George and my ancestors were cotton farmers. It's part of my heritage and so it just kind of came to my mind. It was not meant to be racist, and honestly I'm like the least racist person in the world, so ...

2-I think sometimes it is possible that we as a society flip out about things and are overly sensitive. Don't get me wrong, I may have been insensitive here. I just didn't realize it, but if the intent was innocuous, I suppose understanding must ensue. I'll strive to be more sensitive.

3-Naos, I think your response is part of the problem we as humans have. Your usually a my way or the high way kind of guy. And I don't think your humble but I could be wrong. Furthermore, to react the way you did was sort of bereft of dignity.'Consider for a moment what racism is: a form of dehumanization? Perhaps. And yet you dehumanize posters on this board from time to time bro. Think about that.
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Batman said:
Also, and correct me if I am wrong Naos, but I suspect Naos took more pleasure in calling me a name and being brash then in standing up for what is right. Anyways, I did make a mistake. Should have been more sensitive and I'm sorry.
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^wtf are these?^
 
Kyoto said:
Well... I would say... honestly. Burke, but MAN Cotton had a great game. I hope it wasn't a fluke :)
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Of course Burke is ahead of Cotton at this point. But, like Kanter, he's not a good fit for the Jazz, and not a good team player either. Look at how well the Jazz have played without Burke (without Favors and Hayward, too). But if it was Burke and not Cotton out there the last two games, the Jazz never would never have been in either of the last two games, let alone a blowout tonight. Even when's he's on, he's fools gold, like Westbrook who scores 54 and his team still loses.
 
Sexual Favors said:
Close this thread, it is a disgrace to the brilliabt, amazing, Bryce Cotton!!!!!!!
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Bryce Cotton is my brother and he's better than Trey. Can't believe Kyroto said Trey is miles better. Do not believe that for a second. Bryce is gonna be a better NBA player than Trey. Mark my words!!
 
Kyoto said:
Well... I would say... honestly. Burke, but MAN Cotton had a great game. I hope it wasn't a fluke :)
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I watched him at Providence for 4 years. What you're seeing is basically what he had become by his senior year. It's not a fluke. We knew he would not be drafted. We knew he would never just give up his dream and go make a living in Europe. Teams told him they would take him in later round if he agreed to play in Europe.

The problem with that request, and why he said "no thanks" is because he knew what everybody, at least Utah fans, should know by now: yes he can play in the NBA. Yes, it was silly not to draft him. And yes he is going to stay in the NBA. But he needed Burke to have a sore back in order for his chance to come. Because he's been rejected as not good enough every step of the way(got offered at Providence 2 days before he was to attend a junior college in Az.), he plays with a chip on his shoulder every minute he's on the floor.

He's going to get better. I don't know Burke like you guys do. But I know Bryce Cotton. What you saw last night is what you get when he's on that floor. Like anyone else, he'll have off nights, but the very last thing this kid is is a fluke. Nope, he is better then anyone wanted to give him credit for, and he is flat out proving it.

Fans in Providence are crowing this morning. We are so happy for Bryce. They don't come more humble, you can't help but root for the little squirt, lol. I don't know if he makes this team next year. I sure hope he does. Utah is going to be good. I want my guy on your team. I don't care what string, I want him on your team. He will thrive. He will be a fan favorite wherever he ends up. Why not right where he is? As far as we in Providence are concerned, you Utah folks lucked out. Don't let him go, lol....
 
Kinda makes me think of Ronnie Price.
 
freakazoid said:
Keep digging, you'll be in China before you know it. Now might be a good time to shut the hell up.
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Freak, honestly, your an arrogant douche who just neg repp'd me with the comment "Tell your mom thanks for the BJ. I get it man. Having class is something you don't care about or something that simply eludes your natural tendencies. And to think haha. You had to spread tons and tons of rep just to neg rep me for the 2nd time in less than 24 hours haha... I'm not even sure what to make of that. Truth is, you don't know as much about the game as you'd like to believe and you're a dick. But what ever. I am confident another classless comment will ejaculate from your mind because that seems to be what brings you pleasure.
 
Re: Burke. Look at it this way. How many Jazzfanz would want Allen Iverson on the Jazz? Well, that's what Burke is, AI lite, very lite. Definite chemistry-destroyer. Volume scorers have never been good for teams from Wilt on down. In fact, Wilt never won until he became a team player in his later years.
 
Batman said:
3 things:
1- I did not even recognize this could be considered racist. You see, I'm from St George and my ancestors were cotton farmers. It's part of my heritage and so it just kind of came to my mind. It was not meant to be racist, and honestly I'm like the least racist person in the world, so ...
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So you just thought, my ancestors were happy cotton farmers, and because of the color of his skin I'll bet his ancestors were happy cotton farmers too. Sounds reasonable... if you're a moron.
 
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