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Siro said:
Even statstically, Burke is only a better 3-point shooter. Schroeder wins the rest of the statistical categories, including 2pt% and ft%, and dishes nearly twice as many assists in the same number of minutes. So Burke being better than Schroeder is a bad argument even if you've never seen them play. If you have, it really becomes laughable.
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If Dennis doesn't have legit NBA 3 point range it puts a big cap on the rest of his game. Defenses can really "load up" in the paint. His +/- speaks volumes to this, and why he has been getting so few minutes lately. The draft comps (so far) are pretty accurate in him being a poor man's Rondo.
 
I'm going to go out on a limb here and claim that I've seen more Hawks basketball over the past couple of years than anyone on this forum (less this year, because I haven't had the time). There isn't much of an argument here; Schröder is a better player than Burke. 12 good games from Burke this year hardly changes anything, especially since he's averaging only 22 mpg (down from 32, and 30 in years one and two). And, Dennis has had more changes to which he's had to adapt this year.

This is a stupid thread.
 
NAOS said:
I'm going to go out on a limb here and claim that I've seen more Hawks basketball over the past couple of years than anyone on this forum (less this year, because I haven't had the time). There isn't much of an argument here; Schröder is a better player than Burke. 12 good games from Burke this year hardly changes anything, especially since he's averaging only 22 mpg (down from 32, and 30 in years one and two). And, Dennis has had more changes to which he's had to adapt this year.

This is a stupid thread.
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If Schröder can't hit 30% from 3 in the Hawks offense, what in the **** would he be averaging in Utah?!


/omgtreydevrythn4SchrudderPLZ
 
Hey guys here's an idea, let's trade for a PG that makes our three-point shooting even worse. Better yet, let's trade for a verified head case.
 
King Cy said:
Well 3pt shooting is kind of an important thing.

Schroeder only shoots 2% better on 2pt attempts.

Burke actually gets to the FT line more per 36 minutes (half an attempt more).

Schroeder plays on a much better team (in terms of offensive output) that moves the ball better and has more of a team concept than Utah currently does, so assist opportunities are probably more frequent (Atlanta has 2nd most assist per game as a team).

Schroeder actually has a worse defensive plus/minus (not that I put a lot of stock into this, but I havent watched Schroeder closely enough this year to properly comment on his defensive work this year). That could probably be contributed to Burke playing on a better defensive team (much like Schroeder having some slightly better offensive numbers because he plays on a better offensive team).

Not saying I think Burke > Schroeder this year, and I certainly think Schroeder has more potential over the long run, but it's an argument and certainly not "laughable".

Other slight stats Burke has on Schroeder: Steals and Rebounds (on per 36 basis).
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Inb4crickets
 
Jazz4ever said:
If Dennis doesn't have legit NBA 3 point range it puts a big cap on the rest of his game. Defenses can really "load up" in the paint. His +/- speaks volumes to this, and why he has been getting so few minutes lately. The draft comps (so far) are pretty accurate in him being a poor man's Rondo.
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BUT GUISE
 
I'll take the under of .5 on how many people care about how many minutes NAOS watches the Hawks.
 
Has there been enoughs lols in this thread? I don't think so.

LOL.
 
dalamon said:
sorry, who was talking about the Jazz team and their record?
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Me, I guess? IDK, when analyzing a team, their record is generally pretty indicative of where they're at, and talent-acquisition (including depth, especially in this Jazz's particular case at this moment) is central to success?

But yeah, things are fine/pretty good. Most things are complex and neither the best or the worst.

I guess what I'm saying is, yeah, the Jazz could obviously use another good player.

Anyway. I hope you're not mad.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Me, I guess? IDK, when analyzing a team, their record is generally pretty indicative of where they're at, and talent-acquisition (including depth, especially in this Jazz's particular case at this moment) is central to success?

But yeah, things are fine/pretty good. Most things are complex and neither the best or the worst.

I guess what I'm saying is, yeah, the Jazz could obviously use another good player.

Anyway. I hope you're not mad.
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there are 6 total teams in the NBA who are playing better on the road than the Jazz-- a team that has played 10 of their games on the road.

If Rudy was healthy, we'd be in great shape to snag the 7th seed. Adding Carroll, pushing Hayward to the 2, and Burks to the 1 full-time would doubtfully propel us to a top 3 seed.

The Jazz are being hindered by a slumping Rodney Hood (which of course won't last), inconsistent backup minutes from their bigmen, and inconsistent PG play. I'm not sure how any names like Green, Harris, Carroll (etc.) address those three major needs of our team thus far.
 
so far the only miscalculation has seemed to be the hope of Pleiss being able to contribute from day one. We are incredibly thin at the 5, and a rotation of Pithey/Pleiss simply needs to turn it on.

Once Hood gets his feet right, making a trade for a Belinelli-type (especially with a team pining for draft picks) will not be difficult.

It was the perfect decision to not shake our wing rotation and guard rotation just yet. If Booker can't fill in for Rudy's absence, we need another backup-PF while Trey Lyles matures. We can swipe a center from Boston's crowded rotation for a draft pick, and make a splash in free agency if we doubt the future of an Exum/Burke/Neto PG rotation.
 
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