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But...like really.....how the **** are we gonna get a star?

The sad reality is, that is the only way Utah wins a title. They had Stockton and Malone, but couldn't beat Jordan or Hakeem, both better players.

In the NBA, if you have the best 1-2 players in the league, you will be in the finals most years. It's pretty simple.

Without the top 2 players in the league, you are nothing more than a nice story. Unless you are the one team once every 20 years that is the exception that proves the rule.
 
Let's go 20 years back from the 20 years I already went back and look at title winners:

Bulls - Jordan
Pistons - Thomas
Lakers - Kareem/Magic
Boston - Bird
Philly - Dr. J/Moses Malone
Seattle - Pistons of this era
Washington - Hayes
Portland - Walton
Boston - Havelicik
GS - Barry
Knicks - Frazier
Lakers - Wilt

Crazy. You really have no shot to win a title in the NBA. Yikes.
 
Only the Spurs (Parker), Pistons (Billups), and Boston (Maxwell and White) have ever won titles and not had the Finals MVP not be a Hall of Famer. And if Parker and Billups become HOF'ers, then you could argue that unless you have a hall of famer on your team, and they will step up and be the MVP, you can't win a finals.

Anyways, kind of pointless stat, but shows you as of right now, Utah has ZERO shot at winning a title. Not a single player looks like a future hall of famer.

One more reason to tank.
 
dalamon said:
Draft picks of yours:

1) Enes Kanter (LMAO)
2) traded your 2nd and 3rd picks to Row (still one of the biggest heists in all of fantasy tbh-- Row is 'tarded); still doesn't speak to your drafting talent tho
3) Isaiah Thomas --> deadly pickup, credit given where due
4) Jeremy Lamb --> Pretty vanilla tbh
5) Rudy Gobert --> lol
6) Darren Collison --> Lol
7) Montejiunas --> lol
8) James Anderson --> lol
9) Al Farouq Aminu --> lol
10) McBob --> not bad for a final pick

So really, the only players you actually hung onto were McBob, Isaiah, Enes, and Lamb. Maybe Gobert too. AKA the only starter (if we're talking 8 deep) you drafted, was maybe Isaiah.


Me


1) Joe Johnson --> there was better picks for where he was picked, but I really didn't think the Nets would blow this year. Plus he's an all-star, so I wouldn't say it was a bust
2) JJ Redick --> would be a really good pick-up if he could stay healthy
3) Jameer Nelson --> good pick
4) Kyle Korver --> good pick
5) Sammy Dalembert --> bust; didn't think he would average just 7/6, even though he's hitting 57% from the field
6) Nick Young --> one of the biggest steals of the draft
7) Faverani --> that *******...
8) Ramon Sessions --> good value for a deep-draft pick. Still on my roster.
9) Martell Webster --> one of the best deep-draft picks among anyone
10) Gal Mekel --> could have potential moving forward; currently log jammed from PG depth @ Dallas.


Then, as far as in-season pick-ups are concerned, you managed to make a smart bid on Marshall (and tbh, I would have DEFINITELY out-bid you if I had remembered to submit that bid that night). Otherwise, rounding out your roster with FA-pickup like Blair, Cole, Mozgov, Farmar, and Vasquez is pretty embarrassing. Your mid-season pick-ups might be the worst in our entire league.


Meanwhile, I made bids on: Middleton (while you criticized me, and said Tony Snell would be better); Glen Davis; Nash; and Antic. Three players are quite promising moving forward, and I got Nash for pennies.
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Dal, you are really bad at fantasy. Srsly like the worst I've ever seen.
 
green said:
The sad reality is, that is the only way Utah wins a title. They had Stockton and Malone, but couldn't beat Jordan or Hakeem, both better players.

In the NBA, if you have the best 1-2 players in the league, you will be in the finals most years. It's pretty simple.

Without the top 2 players in the league, you are nothing more than a nice story. Unless you are the one team once every 20 years that is the exception that proves the rule.
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I'd be happy with being a nice story and a shot at the title. Winning a title is near impossible like you said. So let's make the best team that gets respect.
 
dalamon said:
Draft picks of yours:

1) Enes Kanter (LMAO)
2) traded your 2nd and 3rd picks to Row (still one of the biggest heists in all of fantasy tbh-- Row is 'tarded); still doesn't speak to your drafting talent tho
3) Isaiah Thomas --> deadly pickup, credit given where due
4) Jeremy Lamb --> Pretty vanilla tbh
5) Rudy Gobert --> lol
6) Darren Collison --> Lol
7) Montejiunas --> lol
8) James Anderson --> lol
9) Al Farouq Aminu --> lol
10) McBob --> not bad for a final pick

So really, the only players you actually hung onto were McBob, Isaiah, Enes, and Lamb. Maybe Gobert too. AKA the only starter (if we're talking 8 deep) you drafted, was maybe Isaiah.


Me


1) Joe Johnson --> there was better picks for where he was picked, but I really didn't think the Nets would blow this year. Plus he's an all-star, so I wouldn't say it was a bust
2) JJ Redick --> would be a really good pick-up if he could stay healthy
3) Jameer Nelson --> good pick
4) Kyle Korver --> good pick
5) Sammy Dalembert --> bust; didn't think he would average just 7/6, even though he's hitting 57% from the field
6) Nick Young --> one of the biggest steals of the draft
7) Faverani --> that *******...
8) Ramon Sessions --> good value for a deep-draft pick. Still on my roster.
9) Martell Webster --> one of the best deep-draft picks among anyone
10) Gal Mekel --> could have potential moving forward; currently log jammed from PG depth @ Dallas.


Then, as far as in-season pick-ups are concerned, you managed to make a smart bid on Marshall (and tbh, I would have DEFINITELY out-bid you if I had remembered to submit that bid that night). Otherwise, rounding out your roster with FA-pickup like Blair, Cole, Mozgov, Farmar, and Vasquez is pretty embarrassing. Your mid-season pick-ups might be the worst in our entire league.


Meanwhile, I made bids on: Middleton (while you criticized me, and said Tony Snell would be better); Glen Davis; Nash; and Antic. Three players are quite promising moving forward, and I got Nash for pennies.
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Props for looking all this **** up.

Kanter was used in a trade to get Rubio and Antentonkoumpo, so in the end I did get value for him.

Thomas in the 3rd was probably the best pick of the entire redraft.

Collison in the 6th, Anderson in the 8th, and Aminu in the 9th were not bad picks.

Marshall was the FA pickup of the season, but I agree my other pickups havent been great.

PS: You SEVERELY overrate any person who is on your team, and until you stop doing that your fantasy teams will always suck. Stahp being the worlds biggest fantasy homer.
 
UGLI baby said:
PS: You SEVERELY overrate any person who is on your team, and until you stop doing that your fantasy teams will always suck. Stahp being the worlds biggest fantasy homer.
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I'ma be me tbh
 
More depressing stats:

Miami had 7 top 10 picks when they won a title.
Dallas had 7 top 10 picks when they won a title.
LA had 5 5op 10 picks and Kobe.
Boston had 3 top 10 picks
Miami had 7 top 10 picks and Doleac
Lakers had 3 top 10 picks and Kobe.
Chicago had 4 top 10 picks.
Houston had 3 top 10 picks.
Detroit had 6 top 10 picks.
 
UGLI baby said:
green, what da *** you talking about and who are you talking to with all these, "water is wet" type posts?
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I got off on a tangent with the whole we need a superstar and why aren't we tanking harder mantra...just bored at work and posting ****.
 
green said:
More depressing stats:

Miami had 7 top 10 picks when they won a title.
Dallas had 7 top 10 picks when they won a title.
LA had 5 5op 10 picks and Kobe.
Boston had 3 top 10 picks
Miami had 7 top 10 picks and Doleac
Lakers had 3 top 10 picks and Kobe.
Chicago had 4 top 10 picks.
Houston had 3 top 10 picks.
Detroit had 6 top 10 picks.
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Then Utah is in FANTASTIC shape. Five top-10 picks and another on the way:
Favors, Kanter, Hayward, Burke, Marvin and ?
 
Doublea said:
I'd be happy with being a nice story and a shot at the title. Winning a title is near impossible like you said. So let's make the best team that gets respect.
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I agree

Championship is wildest dream come true but being a top 5 team in the league would make me really happy
 
Dal, PG24 just texted me asking if you'd prefer à Dilly Bar or a Peanut Buster Parfait?

Dat DQ treatment doe.



#nTn
 
Dala, I'm too lazy to quote you, but my overall point was that your reasoning is stupid, you suck balls, and Paul George is a star. Legit freak athlete with great basketball skills. The simple idea of taking Hibbert over him is mind-boggling. I know you like stats...Hibbert averages roughly 12 and 8 in 30 minutes per game while shooting 46%. That dude is 7 foot freaking 2 and he can only shoot 46%? GTFO.

Hibbert is massively overrated because last year the refs let him get away with a **** ton against the Heat and he only plays well against the Heat. He averaged 22 and 10 against the Heat while shooting 55%. In all other playoff games he averaged roughly 14 and 9 while shooting 47%...based on his regular season stats, which one seems like the anomaly? Of course a giant is going to play well against the Heat when they have no true post player and the refs let him do whatever he wants (verticality, bitches)...however you can't just take what he does against one team as evidence that he is the best player on that team.

Paul George > Roy Hibbert.

Paul George = superstar...although not because he's better than Hibbert, it's just because he's a superstar. Simple as that. And your whole Hibbert > George thing is freaking retarded.
 
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