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Can someone explain how police should handle people resisting arrest?

Gameface said:
What was Hack's previous username? I don't remember a regular user that is quite as stupid as this guy. He's like a poor man's Beanclown.
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It was bluesrocker fwiw
 
[MENTION=26]Gameface[/MENTION] do you honestly believe children are not taught to obey Officers of The Law?
It is clear to me that they are an this issue runs much deeper then training classes.
I am much more in favour of giving every child a card that reads here are my rights, I will comply with you, I have a right to an attorney, an I will not answer your questions until I am provided one or feel like doing so is in my best interest.

Black leaders have been passing these things out.
You know who else should be taught to respect this? Cops. They should get the same exact card an respect it.

Cops are taught much more highly in deescalation technique AND SPECIFICALLY to only use the elevator of force AFTER it is clear verbal exchanges are exhausted.

I can recommend you to courses on this if you would like.
 
Dr. Jones said:
Haha..

That's about like this;

Conservative: Well, I see people in this town are in need. Let's open businesses and create jobs for them and we all prosper together. Amen.

Liberal: Well, I see people in this town are in need and a golden opportunity to add more to government welfare.. buying future votes for the dems for decades using the tax dollars of those evil job creators.
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LOL @ Amen being in the Conservative camp but not Liberal.
 
Gameface said:
Hack, would I be correct if I were to say that you hold the police in high regard? That you value the service and the sacrifice they make to protect the innocent from violent criminals. That we as a society should support them, give them the benefit of the doubt and give them some slack because they are placed in dangerous situations countless times over the course of their careers. And while they probably handle hundreds of complex, difficult and dangerous situations very well, we are putting them in a position where if they are not absolutely perfect, where they might make one mistake we will crucify them for it. That the level of criticism they face and the negative view so many have of them makes all of us less safe. That it is unfair to paint everyone who wears the uniform with the same broad brush when so much of what they do is good and proper and for the benefit of the very people calling for their heads.

That if people who support BLM have their way we will hog tie police and put their lives in even greater danger. We will be letting the criminals win. We will demoralize the police and embolden those who wish to harm the police. Giving every thug an excuse to resist arrest and fight back when police are just doing the job we have put them out there to do.

Or have I lacked in trying to understand what you're saying, even though you did not say it well?
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So you know those ideas undermine the police and their abilities to do their job, but you side with them anyways. Just so you can look like the good guy sympathizing with criminals and dumb people? You arent helping. Do you see how fragile the system really is when these ideas are planted in the heads of people on a large scale? It got numerous cops killed in a short amount of time. Real innocent people. People without criminal histories and who are contributing in a positive manner to society.

Here is what you missed when you attempted to show you see the otherside. This so called police violence crisis, is not a ****ing a crisis. Do the math. You know math, that **** with numbers you seem to have a hard time understanding. How many incidences in the news have we talked about where that has been question about how the cop handled things, since the Travon Martin, Michael Brown, and the Black Lives Matter movement? 10 maybe? Certainly less than 20. Less than 10 that really even made bigs news. Now how many people are in the US? How many murders occur yearly? What are the statistics behind all those? What are the greater threats to black people? When you put all the numbers in to perspective, this is hardly a god damn crisis. The real crisis is the media telling people they are being hunted by cops, and morons like you believing it and saying it too. Its very dangerous to society. And it actually does a disservice to the black community. The last thing they need is crutch. They need to be empowered to know they can change their lives with determination and hard work. Reinforcing the idea that whitey is after them hurts them. It doesnt help. Im pretty damn sure this little stunt by the media just set back race relations by like 50 years too. Dont believe it? Take a look at the comment sections on any news story. See for yourself. If the media balanced out the stories to reflect the actual numbers. The public would have a completley different persepective on this.

Its very sad, that you being a grown man hasnt figured this out. Look at who is marching around in the streets? Notice the age group? Look a little young and dumb you think? Thats you bro. The menatlity of a juvenile.
 
Hack said:
So you know those ideas undermine the police and their abilities to do their job, but you side with them anyways. Just so you can look like the good guy sympathizing with criminals and dumb people? You arent helping. Do you see how fragile the system really is when these ideas are planted in the heads of people on a large scale? It got numerous cops killed in a short amount of time. Real innocent people. People without criminal histories and who are contributing in a positive manner to society.

Here is what you missed when you attempted to show you see the otherside. This so called police violence crisis, is not a ****ing a crisis. Do the math. You know math, that **** with numbers you seem to have a hard time understanding. How many incidences in the news have we talked about where that has been question about how the cop handled things, since the Travon Martin, Michael Brown, and the Black Lives Matter movement? 10 maybe? Certainly less than 20. Less than 10 that really even made bigs news. Now how many people are in the US? How many murders occur yearly? What are the statistics behind all those? What are the greater threats to black people? When you put all the numbers in to perspective, this is hardly a god damn crisis. The real crisis is the media telling people they are being hunted by cops, and morons like you believing it and saying it too. Its very dangerous to society. And it actually does a disservice to the black community. The last thing they need is crutch. They need to be empowered to know they can change their lives with determination and hard work. Reinforcing the idea that whitey is after them hurts them. It doesnt help. Im pretty damn sure this little stunt by the media just set back race relations by like 50 years too. Dont believe it? Take a look at the comment sections on any news story. See for yourself. If the media balanced out the stories to reflect the actual numbers. The public would have a completley different persepective on this.

Its very sad, that you being a grown man hasnt figured this out. Look at who is marching around in the streets? Notice the age group? Look a little young and dumb you think? Thats you bro. The menatlity of a juvenile.
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But you know that America has one of the worst criminal statistics of all countries that are similarly technologized and developed?
 
An interesting exchange between an arresting officer who body slammed a female black motorist(I left the video link earlier in this thread in comment #60) and the arrested female, in which the cop explains that blacks are viewed by whites as having "violent tendencies" and that he has been intimidated by blacks he is charged with arresting. Basically states whites are afraid of blacks due to blacks being prone to violence. States that 99% of the time blacks, not cops, display violence. Of course, the first part of the video (comment 60) would say otherwise in this instance....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FBVt6...lLfHVtMphOdKrKoOwHJH6D2USQaXSNRXTVtB9sU7zfeNw
 
Hack said:
Whats the difference between people like you generalizing all cops as one way, and people who generalize all blacks one way? There is none. You are both ignorant.

You do know that all cops arent acting like this right? You do know that even 20 videos showing this same thing would still only represent only tiny fraction of what occurs between the people and the police, right? Do you understand that watching police brutality videos is actually amplifying a samller problem into a giant not real crisis? Are you able comprehend when the media has an agenda and is trying to manipulate you? Every single time a black man is shot by police it makes national coverage. There is a whole lot more going on out there that doesnt make news to you. Just go look at the crime statistics and policing statistics. If the media could actually show what happened on a daily basis and you had time to look at it all, blacks dying at the hands of police would be the very least of things you would be concerned with. More white people die by cops each year than blacks. Yet you see nothing on it. Where is your outrage for that? If you actually paid attention to just how many murders are committed by people yearly in the united states, you would be calling for more police help. Each year its over 10,000 people murdered. Instead you are a manipulated dumbass. But ya, cops should just be out their being nice and asking pretty please. Because everybody is just so nice and the cops are just so evil. Grow a brain you clown. You think you could do a better job policing. Then go show us how its done. Im sure your temper you have displayed here many times will never become a factor when dealing with violent crazy people on a daily basis.
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Holy ****, you're an utterly clueless human being. Carry on with your ignorance.
 
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