green
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So Favors didn't shoot the ball when he took free throws?
You should think before you speak. Cause you look dumb.
Can/Will Lyles make Favors expendable?
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So Favors didn't shoot the ball when he took free throws?
You should think before you speak. Cause you look dumb.
green
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Can Hayward, Favors and Gobert win a title?
7StraightIsGreat
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Favors is still our starter but Snyder absolutely has to find a way to get Lyles the minutes he needs on our new and improved/deeper roster. As Jazz fans, have we ever seen a Jazz player have a better summer league? I can't remember even being close to this impressed with an individual performance in SL.
And the sad truth is, as retaining core players becomes more challenging for the Jazz in the next few seasons, Favors becomes a very likely sacrifice. Gotta keep this momentum with Lyles. Dude may have more offensive explosion potential than anybody on our roster.
And the sad truth is, as retaining core players becomes more challenging for the Jazz in the next few seasons, Favors becomes a very likely sacrifice. Gotta keep this momentum with Lyles. Dude may have more offensive explosion potential than anybody on our roster.
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Lyles is coming for Favors starting job. I know Favors has amazing defense, but Trey is starting to show us what a true stretch 4 can do in this league. 20 years old, too. Man!
Coach Ellis
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I'm glad Trey looks good and is showing improvement. I don't think he's going to challenge Favors for the starting job or run him out of town. This team has a DEFENSIVE identity that is unique due to the combination of Rudy Gobert and Derrick Favors. Flex is going to be a helluva stretch 4 and a guy who can space and spread when teams get smaller. All good things. But don't get ahead of yourselves. Wasatch Front will dominate this year, but not because of Lyles.
Doc Cherno
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Anyone think Trey can eventually shift over to the 3 if Hayward isn't retained?
green
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I don't think anyone has said Lyles will run Favors out of town. The salary cap will. You have to choose between Favors or Gobert.
Most people, including the Jazz, favor Gobert. That means that Lykes will hopefully take over for Favors when he leaves/is traded.
No one wants Favors to leave. But, it is what it is. We can't keep all of them.
Even GS will be a shell of itself next summer.
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Post ups, floaters, three ball, mid range, drive and dunk, good handles, good passer.....
I'm trying to temper my expectations for next year a little bit but it's hard.
Im kind of hoping that our core guys stay healthy and that diaw and jj don't play much at all.
I want Gobert, favors, and lyles to get almost all of the 4/5 minutes.
I want hood, burks, and Hayward to get most all of the 2/3 minutes and hill and Exum to get all the pg minutes. I think those are our best guys currently and definitely the better players in the future and they still need developmental minutes.
If we stay healthy Quin gonna have his hands full figuring out rotations that keep everyone happy.
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To early to say definitively in my opinion but I think there is a chance. A small one
green
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My biggest concern was that Diaw would revert back to His pre-SA form. I was told by two different Jazz people that they really don't expect Diaw to play this year. That his trade was completely risk-free because if all goes well, he will be a minor minutes guys (5-10 a game).
Coach Ellis
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I don't think he has the feet to play defense against NBA wings. With that said, I wouldn't mind seeing a lineup of Exum, Hayward, Lyles, Favors and Gobert just for fun. Long, lean and athletic. Would love it if that's the paradigm that other teams have to figure out how to matchup against. Don't think it's feasible though. More likely that Gobert/Favors start the games together, then split time at the 5, while Lyles/Johnson get minutes at the 4 until crunch time. Then you go with whatever lineup is working best to close out.
green
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No. He's a three like Millsap was or Burks is a PG. he could play it for a couple mins, but he is a four. In that regard, he and Gobert are our least flexible players. Gobert is a five. Lyles is a four. That's it.
Coach Ellis
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I'm hoping that they use the Diaw and Pleiss salaries to rent Rudy Gay after its clear that the Kings are out of the playoff mix. Asking price was too high before the draft, but they're clearly willing to move him and the cost goes down as the season progresses. Get to the playoffs able to roll out a lineup of
5 - Gobert / Favors
4 - Gay / Lyles
3 - Hayward / Johnson
2 - Hood / Burks
1 - Hill / Exum
The Kings should just admit they are out of the playoffs now. And by out of the playoffs I mean out for the next 5 years minimum.
ghsartin
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I actually think the exactly opposite. I don't have the stats to back it up but from what I could see by watching a bunch of games this last season, Favors matches up much better against 4s than 5s - even defensively. He seems to do a better job when he is bigger/longer/stronger than the player with whom he is matched up with. Besides, with all his physical ailments and nagging injuries, matching him up against smaller players seems a better option health-wise. Eventually, in the twilight of his career, when he loses some of his athleticism, Favors will probably become a full-time 5 as part-time player. For now, it just doesn't seem right, IMO.
By the way, does anyone know if positional stats are available anywhere? Like "Favors as 5", "Favors as 4", etc...
That would be a horrendously bad move if you want to keep Hayward.
