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Chael Sonnen is gonna make silva his little female dog

Cope said:
Not defending Anderson's camp but what does he have to benefit by having the rematch?
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to show that it was no fluke him winning.
cus according to some/alot dpeending on who you ask anderson got lucky.
also real fighters dont back off from a fight. and yeah he's backing off.

edit: also shutting chael up. cus he would leave the ufc.
 
You guys catch the Fox show before Cain/Dos Santos? I thought it was way too hollywood. Loved the fight though. It was clear Cain wasn't in as good a shape as he wanted to be in and probably that's from the shoulder. Happy for Dos Santos but I don't think he'll last long.
 
CONAN said:
You guys catch the Fox show before Cain/Dos Santos? I thought it was way too hollywood. Loved the fight though. It was clear Cain wasn't in as good a shape as he wanted to be in and probably that's from the shoulder. Happy for Dos Santos but I don't think he'll last long.
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they wanted to appeal to the normal guy. you know the guys that dont know anything about mma.
with the nba lockout. nba fans got some money to spend ;).
so by talking about cain and dos santos their lives they appealed to the non mma crowd.
 
I have a very long and racially fueled response to the Cain/Dos Santos fight -- unfortunately, it's not appropriate for this board. Let's just say, I'm glad that the racist didn't win.

Conan, in your opinion, who in the HW division can beat Dos Santos? (besides my main man, MIR!)
 
TroutBum said:
I have a very long and racially fueled response to the Cain/Dos Santos fight -- unfortunately, it's not appropriate for this board. Let's just say, I'm glad that the racist didn't win.

Conan, in your opinion, who in the HW division can beat Dos Santos? (besides my main man, MIR!)
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Maybe Lesnar. ok not 10 out of 10 times. but lesnar could beat santos 1 out of 3 times. so if the stars align lesnar could beat santos.

why do you consider cain racist? because of his brown pride tat?
 
DutchJazzer said:
Maybe Lesnar. ok not 10 out of 10 times. but lesnar could beat santos 1 out of 3 times. so if the stars align lesnar could beat santos.

why do you consider cain racist? because of his brown pride tat?
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Wait... Lesner? Brock Lesner? BWAHAHAHA... that's funny. But seriously, Brock Lesner?

I'll just pretend that you didn't say that Brock Lesner, the only guy in the HW division that takes a punch worse than Andrei Arlovski, and who got his *** HANDED to him by Cain (who isn't even half the striker JDS is). JDS would TKO that fat lard within the first 3 minutes. Realistically, the only threat I see to JDS is probably Frank Mir or MAYBE Overeem. I say Mir only because the only trouble he's had is with big fat brawlers like Brock and Carwin, but he has handled pure strikers with relative ease. Not to mention that he has phenomenal wrestling and world class BJJ once he gets JDS to the ground. I think that even if Cain had managed to get the TD, JDS would've popped right back up. Mir would stifle him and likely GNP him to a TKO, or submit him. JDS is known for his piss-poor cardio, so this is a very likely scenario in my opinion. Overeem has a chance because he's just about the most pure striker in the UFC. I hate his guts and think he's past his prime, but he's still the #3 ranked HW in the world. I think Brock will beat him.

And yes, Cain is a racist prick. Yes, it has a lot to do with his tattoo. The guy was born in America for hell sakes, drop the "Mexican Pride, essay!" schtick, it's annoying. I think I'll get "White Mormon Pride" tatted up on my chest and go on national TV -- what do you think the response would be?
 
TroutBum said:
Wait... Lesner? Brock Lesner? BWAHAHAHA... that's funny. But seriously, Brock Lesner?

I'll just pretend that you didn't say that Brock Lesner, the only guy in the HW division that takes a punch worse than Andrei Arlovski, and who got his *** HANDED to him by Cain (who isn't even half the striker JDS is). JDS would TKO that fat lard within the first 3 minutes. Realistically, the only threat I see to JDS is probably Frank Mir or MAYBE Overeem. I say Mir only because the only trouble he's had is with big fat brawlers like Brock and Carwin, but he has handled pure strikers with relative ease. Not to mention that he has phenomenal wrestling and world class BJJ once he gets JDS to the ground. I think that even if Cain had managed to get the TD, JDS would've popped right back up. Mir would stifle him and likely GNP him to a TKO, or submit him. JDS is known for his piss-poor cardio, so this is a very likely scenario in my opinion. Overeem has a chance because he's just about the most pure striker in the UFC. I hate his guts and think he's past his prime, but he's still the #3 ranked HW in the world. I think Brock will beat him.

And yes, Cain is a racist prick. Yes, it has a lot to do with his tattoo. The guy was born in America for hell sakes, drop the "Mexican Pride, essay!" schtick, it's annoying. I think I'll get "White Mormon Pride" tatted up on my chest and go on national TV -- what do you think the response would be?
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i disagree with brock not good at taking punches. he did take a hell of a beating vs carwin.
i think mir has a better change of beating jds thats why i agreed. thats why i also said brock has a change(a 1 in 3 change). think we miscomunicated on that one.

also i would like to see cheick kongo fighting jds. not saying he would win. but imho it would be a great fight
 
The good thing about the nba lockout.
is now i can jsutify spending 20 dollars once every 4 to 6 weeks on ppv for ufc(yes online its 20 dolalr per event for foreign users).

so scre wyou nba my money is going to dana white
 
Trout, I think most any of the top HWs could take Dos Santos. His all-around game is not there yet. I think Cain beats him when healthy. I think any HW with any kind of skill can take him.

Having said that, I love Santos' athleticism and energy. That overhand right was one of the quickest I've seen. And to have power behind it besides makes Dos Santos dangerous against anyone. I'm glad he won. Cain just doesn't have the personality for a champ.
 
Boxing taking a beating over the weekend after that questionable decision (or perception thereof).
 
The "problem" I see whit the heavy weight devision. is there is no clear cut dominant guy. whoe will have like 6-9 succesfull title defenses.
i thought cain velasquez was that guy. but as you know know he is even champ.
HW is just gonna be a carousell of champs. Playing hot patatoe with the Belt
 
CONAN said:
Trout, I think most any of the top HWs could take Dos Santos. His all-around game is not there yet. I think Cain beats him when healthy. I think any HW with any kind of skill can take him.

Having said that, I love Santos' athleticism and energy. That overhand right was one of the quickest I've seen. And to have power behind it besides makes Dos Santos dangerous against anyone. I'm glad he won. Cain just doesn't have the personality for a champ.
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Who do you consider top HW's? He's pretty much murdered everyone of them. I really only think Mir has a chance. I think that after Mir destroys Big Nog, he'll get one more fight -- maybe the loser of Overeem and Lesner? (that would make me moist) After that, give him to JDS. JDS is a BJJ black belt and Mir is as well, but easily better on the ground. I would love to see them tangle.
 
I'd consider from Carwin up to be the top HWs. So like Lesnar, Overeem, Cain.

Also, Sonnen is slated to fight Silva as soon as Silva heals up.
 
let's start a prediction for the next card: ufc 139

Light Heavyweight bout: United States Stephan Bonnar vs. United States Kyle Kingsbury (dont know these guys so any prediction on my part will be a wild 50-50 guess so no need for that) edit i will take kingsbury on this one

Welterweight bout: Denmark Martin Kampmann vs. United States Rick Story (kampann wins)

Bantamweight bout: United States Urijah Faber vs. United States Brian Bowles (i'll go with Faber

Middleweight bout: Brazil Wanderlei Silva vs. Canada Cung Le (i go with silva) edit : on second thought its too hard too call kung le is flashy atlethic but deadly

Light Heavyweight bout: Brazil Maurício Rua vs. United States Dan Henderson (i'm going with henderson.

wont buy this card though.

winner (most correct called fights gets pos rep from losers)
 
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trout said "I'm not posting anymore, but I'm taking: Bonnar, Kampmann, Bowles, Silva, and Rua." Book it, ***.
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I had Kingsburry, kampmann, Faber, Silva, and henderson
4-1(only wrong called was the first one whcih was really a guess)
already got my rep from trout
 
I know we're a couple weeks away, but how about some predictions for UFC 140 (and Bisping vs. Miller, which is the TUF Finale)

Bisping vs. Miller - I have to go with Bisping because he has looked very good since his fight with Wanderlei Silva. Plus I'm an Anglophile at heart.

Mark Hominick vs. Chan Sung Jung - Have to go with Hominick

Tito Ortiz vs. Antônio Rogério Nogueira- This one's a crapshoot but I'm going with Nogueira.

Frank Mir vs. Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira- I think Mir gets back in the title hunt with a win here. He looked like garbage against Crocop but beat Nelson easily. We'll see which Mir shows up.

Jon Jones vs. Lyoto Machida- I know that Jones is a heavy favorite, but I'm picking Machida to win. He has a "counter-puncher's" chance of winning, and he has suddenly become under-rated. He lost fair and square to Shogun, but his split-decision loss to Quentin Jackson was a joke. Even Jackson admitted he thought he had lost the fight.

I do think that Jon Jones is going to eventually have a George St. Pierre type reign over the light-heavyweight division, but he hasn't faced anyone as technically sound of a striker as Machida. We also haven't really seen Jones take a punch yet in the UFC (which just shows how good he is), and it leads me to question what he will do when he finally gets hit.
 
seems like anderson "boozer" silva is pulling a giant booze.
he is out till mid 2012.
meanwhile chael is set to face mark munoz on 28 januarie on ufc on fox.
i'm afreaid mark munoz is a mismatch for chael

it's clear anderson is faking it. so he can get any advantage he can have he is holding out to fight in brazil. cus he needs "home" court advantage.

punk silva
 
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