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Karl Marx didn't like coffee Jim, did he?
Coffee talk
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JimLes
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Methamphetamine is also a mild stimulant if you take small enough of an amount. They don't make you piss in a cup to see if you've had coffee at any job I've heard of, though.
But it's not about that. The point, which you seemed to ignore, is that the society treats coffee differently than other stimulants and other drugs. You say yourself, you wake up and have two strong cups of coffee every morning. How is that not an addiction?
My now two year old has been drinking a little bit of my wife's coffee since he was 18 months old. Odd child.
Can you imagine the consequences if you told your boss you had to pray to Allah 18 times per day or had to go to mass everyday from 12 to 3 p.m. IT'S AN ADDICTIONARY!
You should try running this troll job on Spurs Talk and post a link.
Because coffee is more or less inconsequential to your health, while meth can easily destroy your life. You'd think the difference is obvious.
I said that it IS an addiction.
Also, the negative consequences of drinking a few cups of coffee don't exist, that's why it's socially acceptable. Sorry that bugs you so much. I don't understand why it does, but it obviously it does. I wish you didn't have to live in a world where people drink coffee with the full acceptance of society. It's a ****ed up world.
♪alt13
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You're right it is an addiction. So what. Luckily it isn't illegal so someone like myself who is heavily addicted to caffeine can function just fine as a productive member of society. The real problem with addiction isn't addicts it's self righteous *** holes that would impose their standards on others. Keep preachin
I regularly go without coffee and don't even think about it. Not sure it's much of an addiction. More of a ritual.
I used to have a stash of Adderall that I used in small quantities when needed. It was really nice. I got it as a prescription when I was going to school, and since doctors will just give you as much as you want, I ended up graduating with like 5 years worth of pills (if used occasionally). By the end, I totally expected them to expire and lose potency. But it never happened.
Last time I got fract'd for saying that drugs are wonderful when used correctly. So I won't say that again. No, never.
I bet Jimles is foaming reading ^^.
Last time I got fract'd for saying that drugs are wonderful when used correctly. So I won't say that again. No, never.
I bet Jimles is foaming reading ^^.
In many places in Europe it is totally normal to have coffee after dinner. Waiters ask you. I can drink coffee at 9:00 PM, otherwise totally sober and go to sleep within a couple of hours no problem. I do that about once a month just because I want a hot cup of earth.
And yet, society is totally accepting of his horrible preaching addiction. Really messed up.
Holy Gestapo.
Yes you can go to sleep just fine. The quality of that sleep is not as good as it would have been without the coffee. That's not really an arguable point. It's been demonstrated in sleep studies. Drinking coffee within a few hours of going to sleep is not good for your sleep, regardless of whether or not you can fall asleep.
I have a cup or two every morning because I like the taste and it is healthy for you. Sometimes I have a cup before I work out. Sometimes I have a cup before bed. Sometimes I have whiskey in my coffee for brunch, on vacation or at the bar. Some days I skip it and it does not bother me. Coffee by itself is very healthy. The only thing in it that has controversy is caffeine but that also has healthy attributes to it and is really only bad if you have too much of it. Caffeine from coffee or tea in moderation is fine for you. Although a tablespoon of pure caffeine can kill you. USA is trying (or maybe has) to ban selling pure bulk caffeine in powder form. I use to buy this to make my own pre-workout drink with. The same negative things could be said of almost any food. Water is also a mild stimulant. You can kill yourself from drinking too much water. That does not mean it isnt healthy. Also you brought up cocaine which is funny because around 1900s almost everyone used this in medicine and lots of products. Funny fact is that when cocaine was banned it only got the minimum number of votes to be banned. The US government sued coca-cola but ultimately lost for adding caffeine into their product. The government around 1911 targeted caffeine and Dr. Wiley who was leading the charge said
Some people like to do lines of caffeine, it is much more dangerous though than taking it orally. Seems silly to me, but enough things are banned that people do silly things.
JimLes
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No, I wish I lived in a world where enjoying whatever stimulants is up to you and not interfered with by the government, your employer, or anyone else. Instead of having certain stimulants being socially accepted(it's not just coffee, it's also nicotine and other ones), while other stimulants or opioids or psychoactives are not just prohibited, but enormous amounts of money, effort, time, and live are wasted on fighting them.
So, no, I'm not some prude freaking out about drugs. Quite the opposite. What bothers me is that vast majority of Americans(as well as Canadians) are very much opposed to legalization of all recreational drugs. Yet two thirds of Americans report drinking at least a cup of coffee a day. Among those two thirds, the average rate of consumption is 2.7 cups. It's easy to be a hypocrite when your drug of choice is legal.
And don't give me that bull **** about how some drugs are more dangerous to you than others because it has nothing to do with why some stimulants are legal while others are not.
Drug laws are silly. Most of them started because of racist hysteria and were/are used to keep certain groups down. It is crazy the medical Marijuana isnt legal. I personally am a fan of decriminalizing not necessarily legalizing drugs. It would most likely put an end to or greatly reduce certain drugs like heroin and meth that are particularly nasty. Heroin used to be used in cough syrup you could buy over the counter in this country.
♪alt13
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Banning the production and sale of heroin creates fewer heroin addicts. Banning the production and sale of heroin makes it more expensive and more dangerous. Which statement is more true?
When I consider the above question I tend to lean towards legalization.
I agree generally. One problem is addicts have no good option. It's hard to get help when you are breaking the law by using/buying heroine. People are going to get it. Most heroine addicts are former prescription opioid addicts who can't afford those and turn to the cheaper easier to get heroine. Its a complicated issue but I definitely side on not wasting money fighting drug use by consenting adults.