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Corbin hates Kanter?

Kanter got a late start to proffesional BB. His BBIQ is not at a level that we would like. I see that more as a result of his late start to BB and then missing out at UK than an issue of him being smart or dumb. I think those two things has delayed his learning curve on BB. So over time as he gets more experience and ages his BBIQ will go up.

Your implication that a fan cannot have a BBIQ greater than a player is foolish. Am I that fan? Hardly. But there are fans out there that show exceptonal BBIQ and players that show horrible BBIQ.

Let me get this straight: you believe a player who has played almost three years of organized, professional basketball has not had enough time to learn basketball?
 
I think Corbin doesn't trust Kanter, not neccesarily hates him. Corbin is coaching for his life/next coaching gig right now. Kanter is still bad on defense but he isn't the biggest issue. Our TEAM defense is just awful and Kanter gets exposed because our wings can't keep up.
Kanter's struggles come to coaching imo. Kanter has a lot of physical tools to be a solid player but he needs to be coached. Corbin would rather play a vet than knows a little more than Kanter rather than let him learn and grow on the court.
It's so sad that a #3 pick we got from the D-Wil trade is being so under utilized. With the season being a waste you would think Corbin would get the hint from the FO that his job would be safer if he developed youth while losing, instead of playing vets and still losing
 
Talking about leakers forcing Kanter to rotate to them. If Favors and Kanter were out there together, Favors would stem the leak because he's quicker. , then logical rotations would ensue until opposing offense is forced to reset.

You're absolutely right that we have no control over what an opposing guard does after burning our perimeter defense. If they go Kanter's way (kanter in paint, not rotating to foul line/elbow) he goes straight up in the paint, which is what he's been doing. That's about the best you can ask of any non shot blocker when the guard is coming at you.


I have no clue what you're talking about with "leakers" coming inside and forcing a rotation. Do you have a specific setup in mind to help me understand what you're getting at?
 
Let me get this straight: you believe a player who has played almost three years of organized, professional basketball has not had enough time to learn basketball?

Let me get this straight: you feel a coach that has spent his entire life in basketball has not had enough time to learn basketball?

Players can, and often do, increase their skills and BBIQ over time. Same with coaches.

For example. Kanter does not pull the ball down so low anymore on an offensive rebound. He learned and increased his knowledge. Gasp
 
Let me get this straight: you feel a coach that has spent his entire life in basketball has not had enough time to learn basketball?

Players can, and often do, increase their skills and BBIQ over time. Same with coaches.

For example. Kanter does not pull the ball down so low anymore on an offensive rebound. He learned and increased his knowledge. Gasp

That's a fundamental skill, not BBIQ. SMH
 
That's a fundamental skill, not BBIQ. SMH

Point stands. Or are you seriously saying that after 3 years Kanter has all the BBIQ he is going to acquire? If so does that stance hold true for Corbin?
 
Stahp! You're talking about basketball knowledge and basketball fundamentals, not BBIQ.

Stahp. Kanter will improve all three over time.

As Kanter continues to see time he will improve his awareness of what is going on around him. He will read offesnes and defenses better. He will hone skills and learn when to do and not do something.

I miss the days when you actually believed anything you typed.
 
It depnds

Stahp. Kanter will improve all three over time.

Probably true. Some players continue to learn over their careers. Others lack the desire to learn or the aptitude. Some think they know enough or just rely on their athleticism and don't think they need to learn any more. Others sign their big payday and lose their drive to improve.

Kanter seems to be still on the steep part of the learning curve, so there is a good amount of hope, in my opinion.
 
Stahp. Kanter will improve all three over time.

As Kanter continues to see time he will improve his awareness of what is going on around him. He will read offesnes and defenses better. He will hone skills and learn when to do and not do something.

I miss the days when you actually believed anything you typed
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That's cute after you showed you don't know wtf you're talking about and don't understand the simplest basketball concepts, so you were arguing against something you think someone is saying but really you're just confused/undereducated.

Stoked the giant brick wall strikes again.
 
That's cute after you showed you don't know wtf you're talking about and don't understand the simplest basketball concepts, so you were arguing against something you think someone is saying but really you're just confused/undereducated.

Stoked the giant brick wall strikes again.

Clearly. Thanks.
 
That's a fundamental skill, not BBIQ. SMH

Increasing his fundamentals has a direct correlation to increased in knowledge, which points to his BBIQ being increased because his clearly now understanding something he didn't before and is implementing it.

Playing time is like sudoku for players, it helps them to better understand the patterns of the game.

Kanter picked up Al's footwork exceptionally fast. If he didn't have BBIQ, he'd likely be able to learn the moves, but wouldn't do them at precisely the right time to be effective. That part comes from his own in-the-moment intelligence.
 
@marvinWilliams

Don't know if this is Marvin Williams' real twitter, but the article says some interesting things about Enes Kanter and Marvin Williams...

Enes Kanter
Kanter is being disgustingly ignored in Utah. I want to give the Jazz the benefit of the doubt, I hope this solely has to do with their tanking mission but I doubt it. Why an end-of-his-time veteran like Richard Jefferson or a never-reached-his-potential role player like Marvin Williams take minutes away from Kanter is beyond me. Kanter is seventh in minutes on the Jazz, yet when he playes 25 minutes or more he’s failed to score 10-plus points only twice. Over a three-game stint in February, Kanter averaged 22.7 points per game, 9.0 rebounds a game, and shot 65 percent over 35 minutes. Those are All-Star numbers–granted on a small sample size. Kanter deserves the opportunity to be showcased in an offense that will use him. A big part of the reasoning behind letting Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap go was to create playing time for Derrick Favors and Kanter. That obligation hasn’t been fulfilled.
 
Increasing his fundamentals has a direct correlation to increased in knowledge, which points to his BBIQ being increased because his clearly now understanding something he didn't before and is implementing it.

Playing time is like sudoku for players, it helps them to better understand the patterns of the game.

Kanter picked up Al's footwork exceptionally fast. If he didn't have BBIQ, he'd likely be able to learn the moves, but wouldn't do them at precisely the right time to be effective. That part comes from his own in-the-moment intelligence.

More power to you for trying to climb that hill.
 
Increasing his fundamentals has a direct correlation to increased in knowledge, which points to his BBIQ being increased because his clearly now understanding something he didn't before and is implementing it.

Muscle memory is knowledge, I suppose, but it's not bbiq.


Playing time is like sudoku for players, it may help them to better understand the patterns of the game.

Fixed.


Kanter picked up Al's footwork exceptionally fast. If he didn't have BBIQ, he'd likely be able to learn the moves, but wouldn't do them at precisely the right time to be effective. That part comes from his own in-the-moment intelligence.

Al Jefferson has great fundamentals but poor bbiq. If you're arguing that Kanter growing to Jefferson's level of fundamentals will make him Jefferson's bbiq equal then that's a pretty damning indictment of Kanter.

BBIQ is about reacting to the changing atmosphere around you and predicting where the offensive or defensive holes are going to be. That requires understanding where all 10 men on the court are and will be, and not spinning like a ballerina in the post and figuring out how to shoot around the double team with your great fundamentals.
 
Anyway, SF, I'm more interested in the conversation earlier in the thread. Do you have an example of what you were getting at?
 
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