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Wes Mantooth said:
Thats a dumb graph. We have ~ six times the population of Italy. ~ Eight times that of Spain.
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We have about five times the population of S Korea too. Having a larger population doesn't necessarily mean we should be expected to have the quickest spread of infection.
 
Zombie said:
We have about five times the population of S Korea too. Having a larger population doesn't necessarily mean we should be expected to have the quickest spread of infection.
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You’re picking one country whose gov’t is nothing like ours and clearly has hidden the real numbers.

Edit: Was reading to my daughter. Could’ve sworn you said China. Nevertheless, South Korea is an entirely different culture, gov’t to a degree and is a very young country.
 
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Zombie said:
South Korea's government is quite similar to ours, and this is the first I've heard of them hiding their true numbers.
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“yeah well... impeachment distracted trump, our large pop size, and something something... we’re doing a great job!”

Another detail:

South Korea and the United States has their first cases on the same day. They reacted far better than we. It’s well known that Donald ignored intelligence reports for two months.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Could’ve sworn you said China. Nevertheless, South Korea is an entirely different culture, gov’t to a degree and is a very young country.
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Being younger would help with their death rate, for sure, but I don't see how being a younger country would help or hinder transmission necessarily. The reason most experts have given for their success seems to be that they had a competent and swift government response with testing and contact tracing.

There are a lot of factors here, but in an alternate reality where we had prioritized mass testing and taken steps to limit spread weeks earlier we wouldn't be in the situation we are today.
 
Zombie said:
Being younger would help with their death rate, for sure, but I don't see how being a younger country would help or hinder transmission necessarily. The reason most experts have given for their success seems to be that they had a competent and swift government response with testing and contact tracing.

There are a lot of factors here, but in an alternate reality where we had prioritized mass testing and taken steps to limit spread weeks earlier we wouldn't be in the situation we are today.
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I don’t disagree with that. I also think the situation is a bit more complex than we’re making it, myself included.
 
The Thriller said:
I really think we underrate how much of a difference it’d make if we had a functioning executive branch
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Trump is dumb. He has said some dumb things like he usually does about this. That's low on the issues in the USA in regards to this. You really need to think about some issues beyond through your Trump filter. Those who support Trump aren't stopping because of this. Those that don't like him already don't like him. Him choosing which states to send support to right now based on how nice they are to him is a truly awful thing.

Many countries handled this poorly. China, especially locally handled it very badly. Then the central government stepped in and took strong decisive action. Some of this actions seemed to have helped but are also awful in different ways.

I'm glad the USA government isn't using this as a time to take away citizens rights or give their position more power. My guess is that's something Obama would do.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Trump is dumb. He has said some dumb things like he usually does about this. That's low on the issues in the USA in regards to this. You really need to think about some issues beyond through your Trump filter. Those who support Trump aren't stopping because of this. Those that don't like him already don't like him. Him choosing which states to send support to right now based on how nice they are to him is a truly awful thing.

Many countries handled this poorly. China, especially locally handled it very badly. Then the central government stepped in and took strong decisive action. Some of this actions seemed to have helped but are also awful in different ways.

I'm glad the USA government isn't using this as a time to take away citizens rights or give their position more power. My guess is that's something Obama would do.
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we are the world’s lone super power and our president slashed CDC funding and left multiple key positions unfilled. He then ignored intelligence reports for 2 months warning him about this virus. He then ignored the CDC’s own handbook on pandemics. and this happened at our press conference today:

I think the #1 reason why we’re seeing such an awful pandemic is because of America’s lack of leadership in the world.

example #37,947,642:



like seriously, what has this administration done well?
 
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The Thriller said:
we are the world’s lone super power and our president slashed CDC funding and left multiple key positions unfilled. He then ignored intelligence reports for 2 months warning him about this virus. He then ignored the CDC’s own handbook on pandemics. and this happened at our press conference today:

I think the #1 reason why we’re seeing such an awful pandemic is because of America’s lack of leadership in the world.
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Nah, the number one reason is because the virus exists, the number 2 reason is because China blundered it early and didn't contain it, and the 3rd is because of lack of knowledge early about it. Trump is on the list somewhere.

Sorry thriller but you are really obsessed. You actually remind me of some Mormons or other really strongly religious person. They have to run everything through a filter first and relate it back to your religion. For you it's Trump.

From someone that never voted for Trump, has never liked or supported him, and will never vote for him to posts on him are exhausting. Especially in a thread like this where you clearly have an agenda and trying everything you can to try and make him look bad. Do you mumble Trump over and over in your sleep?
 
Ron Mexico said:
Nah, the number one reason is because the virus exists, the number 2 reason is because China blundered it early and didn't contain it, and the 3rd is because of lack of knowledge early about it. Trump is on the list somewhere.

Sorry thriller but you are really obsessed. You actually remind me of some Mormons or other really strongly religious person. They have to run everything through a filter first and relate it back to your religion. For you it's Trump.

From someone that never voted for Trump, has never liked or supported him, and will never vote for him to posts on him are exhausting. Especially in a thread like this where you clearly have an agenda and trying everything you can to try and make him look bad. Do you mumble Trump over and over in your sleep?
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I see where you're coming from, in an alternate reality "insert politician here" administration may have ended up with a poor response to this crisis as well. The dysfunction in our government goes beyond Trump, though his temperament makes it a lot easier to see.

But we live in this reality, and Trump made the mistakes Thriller is pointing out. We don't really have control over what China does, but at least in theory we can hold our own leadership accountable for their failings.
 
Zombie said:
I see where you're coming from, in an alternate reality "insert politician here" administration may have ended up with a poor response to this crisis as well. The dysfunction in our government goes beyond Trump, though his temperament makes it a lot easier to see.

But we live in this reality, and Trump made the mistakes Thriller is pointing out. We don't really have control over what China does, but at least in theory we can hold our own leadership accountable for their failings.
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You don't have any now control over what Trump does than you do than what China does...

I'm okay with holding them accountable and calling things out.

But when that is literally all you post. And no matter what anyone else posts your comment or reaction is: Trump!!! Then it's over the top. There are many many many many issues with this virus one of them is Trump, that's just one is them though. When 99.9% of your posts are about 1 thing in every thread it's excessive. Plus sometime things aren't black and white. In fact, they rarely are. Party allegiance is a pretty silly thing to stand by all of the time. Sometimes your political stance isn't helping and making this worse.

Constantly trying to make this issue a political one isn't really helping. Bashing on Trump every chance you get doesn't help you argument it makes it much weaker.
 
165,000 cases in the US now.. 2nd on the list Italy with 100,000...

US will be doubling Italy within the week...

That's not a record you want.
 
Ron Mexico said:
You don't have any now control over what Trump does than you do than what China does...

I'm okay with holding them accountable and calling things out.

But when that is literally all you post. And no matter what anyone else posts your comment or reaction is: Trump!!! Then it's over the top. There are many many many many issues with this virus one of them is Trump, that's just one is them though. When 99.9% of your posts are about 1 thing in every thread it's excessive. Plus sometime things aren't black and white. In fact, they rarely are. Party allegiance is a pretty silly thing to stand by all of the time. Sometimes your political stance isn't helping and making this worse.

Constantly trying to make this issue a political one isn't really helping. Bashing on Trump every chance you get doesn't help you argument it makes it much weaker.
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Maybe, but to be honest Trump brings all of this on himself. Multiple times a day he says or does something ridiculous. I mean, having the my pillow guy read a fawning letter to Trump at a pandemic press briefing? It's almost too weird to be true, and yet that really happened today.

If hearing about what a dunce Trump is is annoying to you I'd suggest just putting thriller on ignore, because he's not going to stop pointing this stuff out until Trump stops doing them.
 
Zombie said:
Maybe, but to be honest Trump brings all of this on himself. Multiple times a day he says or does something ridiculous. I mean, having the my pillow guy read a fawning letter to Trump at a pandemic press briefing? It's almost too weird to be true, and yet that really happened today.

If hearing about what a dunce Trump is is annoying to you I'd suggest just putting thriller on ignore, because he's not going to stop pointing this stuff out until Trump stops doing them.
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Trump won't stop doing them. I don't mind some of them being pointed out. I do mind when that's all you post about and every thread you try to turn into a Trump thread it's annoying and hurts your cause.
 
Zombie said:
Maybe, but to be honest Trump brings all of this on himself. Multiple times a day he says or does something ridiculous. I mean, having the my pillow guy read a fawning letter to Trump at a pandemic press briefing? It's almost too weird to be true, and yet that really happened today..
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I'm not gonna lie - l like his white trash pillows.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Trump won't stop doing them. I don't mind some of them being pointed out. I do mind when that's all you post about and every thread you try to turn into a Trump thread it's annoying and hurts your cause.
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Hogwash. We have few active threads on this website right now with the season suspended. The few threads are all political and related to Trump. If you want to create a general thread that doesn’t involve politics, go ahead. What do you want to talk about? Drive by restaurants? Gum flavors? Weight workouts? Go ahead and create the thread. If it’s interesting I’ll join and contribute to it.

He’s earned the criticism he’s receiving. From gutting the CDC, to ignoring intelligence reports, to downplaying this pandemic, to attacking governors, and now to having the My Pillow guy speak at a press conference. Why? Can you give me any reason why the **** the My Pillow Guy should speak at a press conference for our federal government?

He’s clearly the worst president of all time. If you can’t take hearing that, then please, put me on ignore. I’m not going to stop attacking him and I really don’t think it hurts (my cause). Whatever cause you perceive that to be.

before we blame China or impeachment or whatever other nonsense for our poor response to this virus, I think we should read these articles:











But sure. Like impeachment distractions or large population or democrats being mean partisans or something is the reason why our federal government is epically failing to respond to this pandemic.
 
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The Thriller said:
Hogwash. We have few active threads on this website right now with the season suspended. The few threads are all political and related to Trump. If you want to create a general thread that doesn’t involve politics, go ahead. What do you want to talk about? Drive by restaurants? Gum flavors? Weight workouts? Go ahead and create the thread. If it’s interesting I’ll join and contribute to it.

He’s earned the criticism he’s receiving. From gutting the CDC, to ignoring intelligence reports, to downplaying this pandemic, to attacking governors, and now to having the My Pillow guy speak at a press conference. Why? Can you give me any reason why the **** the My Pillow Guy should speak at a press conference for our federal government?

He’s clearly the worst president of all time. If you can’t take hearing that, then please, put me on ignore. I’m not going to stop attacking him and I really don’t think it hurts (my cause). Whatever cause you perceive that to be.

before we blame China or impeachment or whatever other nonsense for our poor response to this virus, I think we should read these articles:











But sure. Like impeachment distractions or large population or democrats being mean partisans or something is the reason why our federal government is epically failing to respond to this pandemic.
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Lol, exactly my point. This thread isn't a political thread.
 
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