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Thee jazz fan said:
And Cy mentioned Russell being benched in the 4th the last two games.


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2nd rd pick Rodions Kurucs has scored 53 points in the last 3 games for them. Spencer Dinwiddie, idk the best way I can put it is in college he used to dominate and slowly but surely his nba games are looking more and more like that. Word is already out he might have undersold himsefl on this extension he signed.

Russell was gifted to them by the Lakers, dumb trade, Utah should thank their lucky stars if somehow they trade for him but it's gonna cost a lot and wont happen probably, the Nets have no incentive and need his playmaking with LaVert out.

The east is easy, they have their draftpick this year finally, so they'ly probably give it their best shot til the asb then tank off, the east its easier to maneuver like this, or i should say the stay of the west has made it that way for eastern teams..
 
LoPo said:
He isn't left wide freaking open like Rubio and his D isn't that bad.
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Russell only shoots 2.5% better on "wide open" 3's, and he takes .3 less of those shots per game than Rubio.

Russell isnt a great shooter, and he takes bad shots. He's having the best month of his career and Rubio is still outplaying him. There's a reason the dude is getting benched in close games.

Trust me, I watch a lot of Nets games. The guy doesnt impact the game nearly as much as Rubio on either end.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Russell only shoots 2.5% better on "wide open" 3's, and he takes .3 less of those shots per game than Rubio.

Russell isnt a great shooter, and he takes bad shots. He's having the best month of his career and Rubio is still outplaying him. There's a reason the dude is getting benched in close games.

Trust me, I watch a lot of Nets games. The guy doesnt impact the game nearly as much as Rubio on either end.
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I think Russell might be better as a sixth man type. Where his inefficient offense won't murder you... but he has off ball value on offense so he can mix in with starting units.

The only things that intrigue me are catch and shoot 3 point percentage, ball handling help out of a bigger pg type, and ability to create his own shot (even if it is inefficient). I think you can find that elsewhere at a lower price and maybe without the huge defensive downside.
 
Gilles de Rais said:
2nd rd pick Rodions Kurucs has scored 53 points in the last 3 games for them. Spencer Dinwiddie, idk the best way I can put it is in college he used to dominate and slowly but surely his nba games are looking more and more like that. Word is already out he might have undersold himsefl on this extension he signed.

Russell was gifted to them by the Lakers, dumb trade, Utah should thank their lucky stars if somehow they trade for him but it's gonna cost a lot and wont happen probably, the Nets have no incentive and need his playmaking with LaVert out.

The east is easy, they have their draftpick this year finally, so they'ly probably give it their best shot til the asb then tank off, the east its easier to maneuver like this, or i should say the stay of the west has made it that way for eastern teams..
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As someone who watched Spencer in college first hand, not along side other tv's but in person he never dominated. It was a surprise when he declared for the draft and has really stepped up his game in nba. Dominated though? NEever. This a prime example of why you need to watch whole games and not piece here or there and video highlights. Russell he dominated at OSU in his one year.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Russell only shoots 2.5% better on "wide open" 3's, and he takes .3 less of those shots per game than Rubio.

Russell isnt a great shooter, and he takes bad shots. He's having the best month of his career and Rubio is still outplaying him. There's a reason the dude is getting benched in close games.

Trust me, I watch a lot of Nets games. The guy doesnt impact the game nearly as much as Rubio on either end.
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Like I said earlier today, I don't think we have to get rid of Rubio to get Russell.

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Knowledgeofmine said:
As someone who watched Spencer in college first hand, not along side other tv's but in person he never dominated. It was a surprise when he declared for the draft and has really stepped up his game in nba. Dominated though? NEever. This a prime example of why you need to watch whole games and not piece here or there and video highlights. Russell he dominated at OSU in his one year.
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You smoke crack?
 
Dinwiddie had 37 and 11 last night. That's dominating.

It will piss me off to no end that he took that bargain deal. He could have been an All-Star in Utah.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Dinwiddie had 37 and 11 last night. That's dominating.

It will piss me off to no end that he took that bargain deal. He could have been an All-Star in Utah.
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That other poster was talking about college from what I could gather. If that's the case then what dinwiddie did last night wouldn't be relevant to what he was talking about since that wasn't a dominating collegiate performance.

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fishonjazz said:
That other poster was talking about college from what I could gather. If that's the case then what dinwiddie did last night wouldn't be relevant to what he was talking about since that wasn't a dominating collegiate performance.

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He would have dominated college basketball last night doe!
 
If Rubio is the answer for DL I would expect he engages in an extension talk now... Rubio's cap hold is prohibitive to our FA ambitions. I don't have any clue what Rubio will get but if we are in each other's plans long term something starting around 10M would give us another 8-9M in space.

I've wanted off the Rubio Roller Coaster for a while, but it has been fun lately. A value deal on Ricky may be a better option than some of the crappy deals we propose.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
If Rubio is the answer for DL I would expect he engages in an extension talk now... Rubio's cap hold is prohibitive to our FA ambitions. I don't have any clue what Rubio will get but if we are in each other's plans long term something starting around 10M would give us another 8-9M in space.

I've wanted off the Rubio Roller Coaster for a while, but it has been fun lately. A value deal on Ricky may be a better option than some of the crappy deals we propose.
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I would keep Rubio at less than $10 million on a declining deal. If he gives us some 4 year $35 million deal making $10, $9, $8, $8 team option, I would be happy with that.

I just don't want to have to start him. And if we keep Rubio, we gotta upgrade Favors.

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Handlogten's Heros said:
If Rubio is the answer for DL I would expect he engages in an extension talk now... Rubio's cap hold is prohibitive to our FA ambitions. I don't have any clue what Rubio will get but if we are in each other's plans long term something starting around 10M would give us another 8-9M in space.

I've wanted off the Rubio Roller Coaster for a while, but it has been fun lately. A value deal on Ricky may be a better option than some of the crappy deals we propose.
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DL's offer now would be less than he offered this off season, so I don't see anything getting done. Rubio would not accept 10m a year, which is less than Exum, no way in hell.
 
Jazz4ever said:
DL's offer now would be less than he offered this off season, so I don't see anything getting done. Rubio would not accept 10m a year, which is less than Exum, no way in hell.
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I don’t see an obvious team that would go much higher... certainly not a good team... maybe Phoenix... how much would you give up if you are Rubio to stay here and avoid Phoenix. What Exum got does not matter... Ricky knows he was paid on potential once too. It could start at 10 and be like 4/46... is he getting 4/60 from Phoenix or Orlando? Maybe... but I’ll bet they are looking at other options.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
If Rubio is the answer for DL I would expect he engages in an extension talk now... Rubio's cap hold is prohibitive to our FA ambitions. I don't have any clue what Rubio will get but if we are in each other's plans long term something starting around 10M would give us another 8-9M in space.

I've wanted off the Rubio Roller Coaster for a while, but it has been fun lately. A value deal on Ricky may be a better option than some of the crappy deals we propose.
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The cap hold isn't really that prohibitive, Jazz can do their due diligence and if they think there's a better fit that they can get at PG than Rubio then they just waive his cap hold and sign the FA, otherwise they keep the cap hold and extend Rubio if they wish.
 
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