Dante Exum Averages .2 Steals Per Game

[Hekate]

I don't really think Exum's problems are because of his BBIQ, he just doesn't have the skills. He can't shoot, he can't pull-up so he there aren't much options for him on the court. Teams are more concerned about the pass than his threat to finish at the rim.

At this point, I expected Exum to be %34-35 3pt shooter with more shake and better ball-handling. At least, I expected him to try a few things. I am seriously disappointed in him.

 

[Hitman]

We are basically the same roster as last year. I'm not buying that we can't right this ship. Quin has been patient, as he should be, but I think it's time to tinker. He can always go back and at this point what is there to lose?

We are basically the same roster except everyone - EVERYONE - outside of Joe and Rudy is playing consistently worse (although Burks is about the same and Favors is good when he's the C). And even Joe has had bad games. If a team universally regresses like this, it isn't the players. It's coaching. Whatever tweaks Quin made over summer, they aren't working. Our ball movement has been nowhere near as crisp as last season, it's hesitant, players seem to be thinking rather than playing on instinct (except Burks, which is why he looks the same). Yet the whole advantage of 'just run it back' was supposed to be the players would pick up where they left off last season, but they haven't, even when they run the same plays they look disjointed. Quin needs to act, not be patient - and if it's his tweaks that need to go, he can't be stubborn, either.

And another possibility is this dysfunction is just the result of the loss of Kokoskov.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

We are basically the same roster except everyone - EVERYONE - outside of Joe and Rudy is playing consistently worse (although Burks is about the same and Favors is good when he's the C). And even Joe has had bad games. If a team universally regresses like this, it isn't the players. It's coaching. Whatever tweaks Quin made over summer, they aren't working. Our ball movement has been nowhere near as crisp as last season, it's hesitant, players seem to be thinking rather than playing on instinct (except Burks, which is why he looks the same). Yet the whole advantage of 'just run it back' was supposed to be the players would pick up where they left off last season, but they haven't, even when they run the same plays they look disjointed. Quin needs to act, not be patient - and if it's his tweaks that need to go, he can't be stubborn, either.

And another possibility is this dysfunction is just the result of the loss of Kokoskov.

Ingles is the only player I put no blame on. He's doing worse, but it's only because he's had to do more. He did this in November/December of last year too. He had a lot of bad games then cuz the team was sucking and he had to do too much.

 

[str8line]

We are basically the same roster except everyone - EVERYONE - outside of Joe and Rudy is playing consistently worse (although Burks is about the same and Favors is good when he's the C). And even Joe has had bad games. If a team universally regresses like this, it isn't the players. It's coaching. Whatever tweaks Quin made over summer, they aren't working. Our ball movement has been nowhere near as crisp as last season, it's hesitant, players seem to be thinking rather than playing on instinct (except Burks, which is why he looks the same). Yet the whole advantage of 'just run it back' was supposed to be the players would pick up where they left off last season, but they haven't, even when they run the same plays they look disjointed. Quin needs to act, not be patient - and if it's his tweaks that need to go, he can't be stubborn, either.

And another possibility is this dysfunction is just the result of the loss of Kokoskov.

Good point about Kokoskov.

We are getting open looks though. What more could we want? We are even missing layups. This is not on Quin's system. But maybe Quin isn't doing enough to inspire his guys. Although I think pro's should make their open shots at least as well as eighth-graders.

 

[Et tu Brute]

Another player who is faster than "fastest" Dante.

This is true.
Fox is probably the quickest man on a basketball court. Probably the only one I am very sure that is faster.

But who cares in the end. This isn't athletics. Dante needs to be a better basketball player... 100%

 

[sahlensguy]

We are basically the same roster except everyone - EVERYONE - outside of Joe and Rudy is playing consistently worse (although Burks is about the same and Favors is good when he's the C). And even Joe has had bad games. If a team universally regresses like this, it isn't the players. It's coaching. Whatever tweaks Quin made over summer, they aren't working. Our ball movement has been nowhere near as crisp as last season, it's hesitant, players seem to be thinking rather than playing on instinct (except Burks, which is why he looks the same). Yet the whole advantage of 'just run it back' was supposed to be the players would pick up where they left off last season, but they haven't, even when they run the same plays they look disjointed. Quin needs to act, not be patient - and if it's his tweaks that need to go, he can't be stubborn, either.

And another possibility is this dysfunction is just the result of the loss of Kokoskov.

It's not the coaching.

Last year was special and their strength was the team. They caught lightning in a bottle. They are doing worse this year compared to last because they weren't individually great to begin with, and a team can only lift you so high before talented individual competition takes you down.

We lack elite skill and athleticism to repeat while others get better.

 

[RickyStan]

Bogdonovic just dribbled the ball off his foot and it bounced to Dante. It went in the box score as a steal! Gonna need to update the thread title!

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

We are basically the same roster except everyone - EVERYONE - outside of Joe and Rudy is playing consistently worse (although Burks is about the same and Favors is good when he's the C). And even Joe has had bad games. If a team universally regresses like this, it isn't the players. It's coaching. Whatever tweaks Quin made over summer, they aren't working. Our ball movement has been nowhere near as crisp as last season, it's hesitant, players seem to be thinking rather than playing on instinct (except Burks, which is why he looks the same). Yet the whole advantage of 'just run it back' was supposed to be the players would pick up where they left off last season, but they haven't, even when they run the same plays they look disjointed. Quin needs to act, not be patient - and if it's his tweaks that need to go, he can't be stubborn, either.

And another possibility is this dysfunction is just the result of the loss of Kokoskov.

Ehh, I don't buy the loss of any assistant being that detrimental. The Jazz sucked early last year too when Kokoskov was on the bench.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Bogdonovic just dribbled the ball off his foot and it bounced to Dante. It went in the box score as a steal! Gonna need to update the thread title!

I mean, Exum has doubled his steals this season since I started this thread.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Dinwiddie is the nearly the same size of Exum, but has game. He would be an absolute stud in the Jazz's offense. I think he'd be a 20 ppg scorer. I'm ready to throw all the money at him.

 

[blues87]

Seems like he has a case, in golfing terms, of the yips but the basketball version. The bloke is mentally broken. I think he's scared of Quinn.

A fresh start for all parties would be ideal.

 

[Douchebag K]

Seems like he has a case, in golfing terms, of the yips but the basketball version. The bloke is mentally broken. I think he's scared of Quinn.

A fresh start for all parties would be ideal.

He's a grown adult getting paid 11 million dollars a year to play a professional game with no chance of getting fired from his job or any real consequence. Being scared of the coach isn't really a thing ... if it is he needs to get tf over it

 

[blues87]

He needs some mongrel in his game. Atm he's a vegan snowflake.

 

[NUMBERICA]

He needs some mongrel in his game. Atm he's a vegan snowflake.

Vegan snowflake here. Don't insult us by comparing us to that weenie.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I mean, Exum has doubled his steals this season since I started this thread.

I watched him a little more closely... he just focus on his guy a lot. Had opportunities to reach in on a dribble drive or two and didn’t try. It’s not great obvi... but he does well 1 on 1 I guess.

 

[jjscap]

Based on total career minutes, he basically played 1 or 1.5 season of an NBA starter. And this was interrupted twice with injuries.
He needs more minutes. Not sure how though because it's obvious Coach Q doesn't trust him. One single mistake and he's sidelined next.

 

[LoPo]

Once again, Exum is fine. You put Exum on the the other team's best wing for 15-20 minutes a game to hopefully frustrate them some. The salary cap is $109 million next year. If we are spending less than 10% of our cap number on a guy who is going to play good wing defense for a half, then it is money well spent. If he can learn to provide any offense, then that's an added bonus.

Just remember, we are spending almost as much money on Udoh and Thabo who actually provide next to nothing. And also remember that he isn't some Anthony Bennett bust who isn't even in the league.

Find something else to complain about.

 

[JAZZGASM]

Once again, Exum is fine. You put Exum on the the other team's best wing for 15-20 minutes a game to hopefully frustrate them some. The salary cap is $109 million next year. If we are spending less than 10% of our cap number on a guy who is going to play good wing defense for a half, then it is money well spent. If he can learn to provide any offense, then that's an added bonus.

Just remember, we are spending almost as much money on Udoh and Thabo who actually provide next to nothing. And also remember that he isn't some Anthony Bennett bust who isn't even in the league.

Find something else to complain about.

Dante plays solid man on man defense. Refs don't give him enough respect, but he does a good job staying in front of his man and can challenge shots well.

Yes, he is not where he should be, and he needs to work harder on his scoring moves and shooting. He is probably a bust for a top 3 pick, but that was the gamble taken on a relatively unknown. I think he needs a longer leash that he hasn't gotten, but I think he is just a bit awkward and never see him having a great offensive game.

 

[LoPo]

Dante plays solid man on man defense. Refs don't give him enough respect, but he does a good job staying in front of his man and can challenge shots well.

Yes, he is not where he should be, and he needs to work harder on his scoring moves and shooting. He is probably a bust for a top 3 pick, but that was the gamble taken on a relatively unknown. I think he needs a longer leash that he hasn't gotten, but I think he is just a bit awkward and never see him having a great offensive game.

I see Exum having a better offensive game than Roberson, Bruce Bowen, and guys like that. Our coaching staff just needs to focus on making him an elite defensive player which I think he can be.

Much like Grayson, he needs minutes. Burks needs to go and his minutes need to go to Exum and Grayson. Burks helps us now, but those two guys can help us down the road when we should be a better team.

 

[sahlensguy]

When Exum returned from injury and played his rookie year our D dominated. Rudy was breaking out and Donte defended the point. They were a dynamic duo.

Still that's all Donte does is defend his man. Guy needs to evolve.