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Dante Exum Averages .2 Steals Per Game

dakidmas said:
Exum is that kid who kills it in training but come game day just doesnt deliver for whatever reason.

My main concern is that he wanted to re-sign here, I dont think the game style suits him and the coach benches him for sneezing. By resigning for more than he could get elsewhere it worries me that he doesnt believe in himself.

Feom the outside looking in I would have said thanks and see ya later Quin, we just aren't a good fit.
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The market for FAs was a disaster zone last offseason though, I don't blame guys like Exum and Favors getting paid by the Jazz when the likely hood of them getting anywhere near those deals on the open market was slim to none.

Demarcus ****ing Cousins took a MLE and a number of other guys expecting nice pay days were disappointed because teams just didn't have money to spend, let alone willing to spend on a RFA like Exum where the Jazz were going to match any low ball deal.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
this is right. his ceiling shaun livingston. different kind of player, but about that good, that impactful. a good rotation wing who can help a really good team. but yeah, only the delusional would think he can be a star, at this point.
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Actually he's more like Leandro Barbosa than Shaun Livingston. I don't want to say that's his ceiling since he could be better than Barbosa, especially defensively, but who knows if he'll ever be consistent enough to reach that ceiling.

Right now, he's in the same ballpark as Michael Carter-Williams.
 
Douchebag K said:
yup X can match Ricky's 0 for whatever comfortably but at least he can slow down dudes I'm actually not fussed about Ricky's shooting, it's his defense and turnovers have been horrendous this year
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I'm fussed about Ricky's shooting. He went 4/15 last night, and it's been more common for him to shoot 1/7, 3/11 or 4/13 than shoot a respectable 4/9 or 5/11. The Kings were giving him 12 feet of space on the perimeter, daring him to shoot or try to pass over the top.
 
8 said:
He has good one-on-one IQ, good moves, footwork, and drive and dish game, but does not understand the game beyond this. He is worthless when the ball is not in his hands and is worthless when the guy he is defending is not involved in the play. He cannot see things a step ahead, see plays develop, make reads and react accordingly. He has good scoring instincts but no scoring skills. He has a good feel in the post for a guard imo, but he’s relatively weak as hell, can’t shoot, and would never get much space to operate there on this team anyhow.
Rubio understands the game much better, is better, and plays more as a result.
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Pretty much everyone in Snyder’s offense is useless without the ball in their hands. The “go stand in the corner and don’t move offense”.
 
MVP said:
Here is fundamentally poor defensive awareness by Exum. Things like that would drive any coach mental, no wonder he gets yanked after couple mistakes like that
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Watching this I thought it must have been gameplan, slacking off a specific person and daring him to shoot. It's Collison, a career 40% three point shooter. He lead the league last year at almost 50%. Was Collison playing with injury or something? Because otherwise not forcing him off the line like that was completely stupid.
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
Watching this I thought it must have been gameplan, slacking off a specific person and daring him to shoot. It's Collison, a career 40% three point shooter. He lead the league last year at almost 50%. Was Collison playing with injury or something? Because otherwise not forcing him off the line like that was completely stupid.
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agreed. Cool Now show the multitude of boneheaded defensive plays Ricky makes every night.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I don't think that's true. It's what some fans think, but I think Utah's expectations for him are probably pretty measured.
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How is it untrue? Their expectations and measurements are business decisions. They aren't measuring and making decisions all solely for purely basketball reasons. Quite the opposite. The sales model is directed to a Utah fanbase with Mormon-specific mentallity and how it is our team, a part of what being a Utahan is. It's us, it is we. We are all here in life in this together, and lookie we have an NBA franchise with John and Karl and Jerry. Look at us, look at what we have.

It's just like any other city people grow up in and are proud of. We are here and we are cool and check out our trophy the Utah Jazz.

Utah Jazz are a business. Ownership is in the business of catering to their customers the best way they think, not in the business of making purely basketball decisions and bucking the trend that San Antonio did and got extremely lucky drafting as well. That style must be a business decision that is seen as too short term risky for the long term reward that SA got.
 
Douchebag K said:
agreed. Cool Now show the multitude of boneheaded defensive plays Ricky makes every night.
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It’s not about comparing Exum with Rubio, one has nothing to do with the other. If Exum improves enough to knock Rubio out of the starting lineup I’d be more than pleased, especially if it helps the Jazz win games. Let’s avoid fanboyisms.
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
How is it untrue? Their expectations and measurements are business decisions. They aren't measuring and making decisions all solely for purely basketball reasons. Quite the opposite. The sales model is directed to a Utah fanbase with Mormon-specific mentallity and how it is our team, a part of what being a Utahan is. It's us, it is we. We are all here in life in this together, and lookie we have an NBA franchise with John and Karl and Jerry. Look at us, look at what we have.

It's just like any other city people grow up in and are proud of. We are here and we are cool and check out our trophy the Utah Jazz.

Utah Jazz are a business. Ownership is in the business of catering to their customers the best way they think, not in the business of making purely basketball decisions and bucking the trend that San Antonio did and got extremely lucky drafting as well. That style must be a business decision that is seen as too short term risky for the long term reward that SA got.
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The Jazz would have signed Jimmer then.
 
Jazzta said:
I’m thankful that we have an NBA team in Utah. We have the chance to watch the best basketball players in the world.

Some fans are really so uptight about things. Go Jazz!
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Okay @fishonjazz

Utah will finally truly try to be a winning franchise when enough of their customers take this mentality and they can operate at a profit catering to that customer base. Memphis took that gamble, how did that turn out?
 
Jazzta said:
It’s not about comparing Exum with Rubio, one has nothing to do with the other. If Exum improves enough to knock Rubio out of the starting lineup I’d be more than pleased, especially if it helps the Jazz win games. Let’s avoid fanboyisms.
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Sorry Jazzta, i'm just stressed brother. I actually love Ricky, i'm just bummed he isn't playing like he was last year
 
Catchall said:
Actually he's more like Leandro Barbosa than Shaun Livingston. I don't want to say that's his ceiling since he could be better than Barbosa, especially defensively, but who knows if he'll ever be consistent enough to reach that ceiling.

Right now, he's in the same ballpark as Michael Carter-Williams.
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uh no .. nobody's as bad as MCW
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Exum is 6'6 with a 6'9 winsgpan and elite speed. How on Earth is he only getting .2 steals per game? Per 48 minutes it goes up to a whopping .5 steals per game.

I'm not saying you have to get a ton of steals to be a good defender, but Exum is providing 0 defensive playmaking right now.
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because bball is about more then size and wingspan. It takes bball iq and that's gone thing everyone questioned about Exum when he was drafted. So I was told Quinn and staff is the best player development staff in league. They are just like other teams. Some success stories and some failures. Imagine had the Jazz picked right when they took Exum and Kanter. Both were praised as Jazz type players when drafted. I heard people comparing Exum to kobe. Come on people don't deny it. Multiple posters here was calling him that.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
He's more of a position defender... this is notable though. He should be able to dig in on guys driving and do more there in help situations.

He doesn't really take any risks on the basketball court... so this is not too surprising... also he gets a terrible whistle so I'm sure he plays scared a lot.

He might have slow hands too... he's not an expert ball handler.

Dante is a puzzle that is likely never fully solved.
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he is a guy who should of played college ball but he got a team to bite and pick him. Other then Simmons I don't know if I could take an Aussie who hasn't played in America with a top 5 pick.all that said he is still 23. He should be a rookie this year has he played college ball. Jazz either need to invest in him for future and send him to g league for awhile or they need to trade him before he has zero value. At best you might be able to get a late first for him. Dream on about getting a top 20 pick for hi m. Ship him to Philly for Fultz. They are ready to move on from him and Ben and him are buddies right?
 
Douchebag K said:
Sorry Jazzta, i'm just stressed brother. I actually love Ricky, i'm just bummed he isn't playing like he was last year
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I agree, he really isn’t. He shows bursts when he scores 3 baskets in a row but not nearly as consistent as he was by the end of last season. What’s getting into our players I have no clue... complacency and taking things for granted I guess.
 
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