The Blue Elephant
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I was interested in a defense against that because only thing people like you and KD's family do is "Kanter sucks, **** CANCER LOL." Looks like your guys defense is worse than Kanter's.
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I was interested in a defense against that because only thing people like you and KD's family do is "Kanter sucks, **** CANCER LOL." Looks like your guys defense is worse than Kanter's.
What is your angle? Are you just a contrarian? A Turk? Most metrics over the last two years and every big picture piece of information points to one screaming conclusion. I also happen to be a Jazz can which puts a granite capstone on top of all of this.
It's pretty clear from some of the revelations in the past few days that Kanter hurt the team in more ways than just playing poor defense.
I don't think he meant to throw the organization under the bus as much as he did - it's obvious from some of what he says that more kinda slipped out than he intended. Better coaching from an agent would probably mitigate things like this for most players.
That being said, it's hard to defend a guy when his trade immediately improved us and then he lashes out at an organization that certainly TRIED to help him. Ultimately, I'm happy he said the things he did because it completely ends the idea of keeping him as being on the table.
I don't think he meant to throw the organization under the bus as much as he did - it's obvious from some of what he says that more kinda slipped out than he intended. Better coaching from an agent would probably mitigate things like this for most players.
That being said, it's hard to defend a guy when his trade immediately improved us and then he lashes out at an organization that certainly TRIED to help him. Ultimately, I'm happy he said the things he did because it completely ends the idea of keeping him as being on the table.
This is absolute bull****. I presented my argument in about as civilized a manner as you can ask, with ample evidence to back it up.
You, on the other hand, constantly find yourself in over your head when you try to argue basketball with anybody here, and in every instance resort to personal attacks.
https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php...azz-3-28-15-ESA-7-PM-MT&p=1027488#post1027488
https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?39218-David-Locke-toasts-Kanter-on-1280/page8
How dare you accuse me of blowing off good debate for the sake of trolling when that is literally all you have done in this and countless other topics.
The Blue Elephant
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Lol you constantly talk about how dRTG is garbage than I caught you using dRTG to support your arguments. You are probably one of the biggest hypocrites I know. You got owned.
I have always said dRTG for INDIVIDUAL players is useless, and I have explained countless times why. It just never sunk with you. I never said dRTG for teams as a whole is bad, and I have always advocated it.
All anybody needs to do to verify this is check the first link I posted. It's all there. All you're doing now is proving my point.
The Blue Elephant
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Straw man and backpedaling.
haha, you make me smile
Umm, no.
You can't just randomly call out logical fallacies when they don't even apply and then claim victory.
The Blue Elephant
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I never used dRTG to prove individual performance either. Complete strawman.
You had really come a long way, TBE. Now you're back to calling everyone who disagrees with you stupid and throwing out logical fallacy accusations all the time.
It didn't work in your favor the first time around and it's not working now.
Try not taking this so seriously. Especially try to not worry when people disagree with you. It's all good, man.
It didn't work in your favor the first time around and it's not working now.
Try not taking this so seriously. Especially try to not worry when people disagree with you. It's all good, man.
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I am far from a Kanter homer but I defended him, in the sense that I would defend any young player who had to endure his first years under Corbin. If Kanter started out with Quin, I think things could've been a lot different.
Not sure I agree fully with this.
Burks seems to have made it through the Corbin years ok.
It is possible this has more to do with the player than the coach, imo.
Yeah, like he's the first player ever whose had to start under a lousy coach. Mentally tough players deal with it. Mentally weak pusses like Kanter whine and pout.
I have seen you bring up individual dRTG multiple times when defending the former player. If you weren't trying to show anything from it, why were you posting the stats in the first place?
My guess is that if you re read the last couple pages it will come to you.
The Blue Elephant
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I said Kanter dRTG was good in the context of the Jazz defense was good with Kanter the last twenty games they played together. This shows that a defense CAN be good with Kanter for long stretches of a game and that the Jazz defense was improving even when Kanter was present. YOU used espn articles quoting dRTG to show Kanter was bad. You just don't understand. I no longer have the time nor the crayons to debate with someone of your level of inferior intellect. You will of course disagree with me due to your irrationality.
Sexual Favors
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Can we get back to my conspiracy theory and need to see the best in Enes?
I've already responded to all of this here:
https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php...azz-3-28-15-ESA-7-PM-MT&p=1027488#post1027488
Seriously, it's all there, including why your use of individual dRTG is misleading, and how the excerpt from the espn article that briefly mentioned individual dRTG literally had nothing to do with my point.
No offense dude, but it is getting incredibly annoying having to repeat my point 5 or 6 times before it sinks in. Everybody else here gets it, why can't you? And I have to say, for somebody who bitched up a storm earlier about people ignoring debate and resorting to trolling, you sure as hell don't seem to mind doing exactly that
Is that a joke?