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Game Thread Dec 22, 2022 07:00PM MT: Jazz vs. Wizards

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Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
And I’m sure in a year or two when we are good but not contenders, your dumbass won’t be thinking if only we had tanked and got a top 2-5 pick and got a potential superstar. The jazz and trader dan ****ed up bad.
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Nope, I'm not dumb enough to think a 14% chance would automatically net a top 2-5 pick.

But seeing tankers get all upset is a great feeling. Me, I like to see the Jazz win. Crazy thought I know.
 
hgb said:
Or we would look at our grand prize, in the form of the next incarnation of Marvin Bagley, and think "damn, I'm glad we had that miserable year".
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Remember the Jazz drafting Enes Kanter with the 3rd pick and drafting Dante Exum with the 5th? I can't believe we're not talking dynasty now!
 
sip said:
At some point it just isn't worth bringing common sense into the equation. Some people just don't care about what is in the best interest of our franchise long term and are okay with being locked into that middle ground long term.
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Nate505 said:
Nope, I'm not dumb enough to think a 14% chance would automatically net a top 2-5 pick.

But seeing tankers get all upset is a great feeling. Me, I like to see the Jazz win. Crazy thought I know.
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Winning is only a reward if we contend. We haven’t contended since the late 90’s, 24 years. What’s the point of empty wins. All they are.
 
Ben10 said:
The current Boston Celtics.
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+1. Or the move he make for us already. Who would have predict that we will be that good without our 2 ''superstars''. I trust 100% FO on what they are doing. Even a part of me dream of having Victor, a lot of team are not trying to win this year. Trading more players just to be bad is not the right way for me. IF we got a good return for Mike, or JC let's make it. If we got a good opportunity to add a good player ( Collins, Kuzma...) let's do it.
I do believe that we are only one or 2 pcs away to be a contender. I might be wrong as it hard to win here.
But anyway, beeing a fan of basketball is for me a question of fun as well. And i have more fun this year watching them that i have the last 2 years.
 
Nate505 said:
Remember the Jazz drafting Enes Kanter with the 3rd pick and drafting Dante Exum with the 5th? I can't believe we're not talking dynasty now!
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We also drafted Burks at #12

Down the line #15 was Kawhi and #30 Jimmy Butler #60 Isaiah Thomas

Misery
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
Winning is only a reward if we contend. We haven’t contended since the late 90’s, 24 years. What’s the point of empty wins. All they are.
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And how do you know we wont contend with our current core? What evidence have you got? Only thing you accept as an option is tanking and picking players high on the draft. Why is it that you cannot see any other option?

Answer is:
You dont believe in our current players and that they can win big games. You want other players you can believe in. However, those guys coming from the draft, what are the guarantees with them?

Might I offer an alternative:
Maybe give these guys the benefit of the doubt. They have given you every chance to believe they are much better than advertised... so maybe take that chance and actually cheer for the team?
 
HermanG said:
And how do you know we wont contend with our current core? What evidence have you got? Only thing you accept as an option is tanking and picking players high on the draft. Why is it that you cannot see any other option?

Answer is:
You dont believe in our current players and that they can win big games. You want other players you can believe in. However, those guys coming from the draft, what are the guarantees with them?

Might I offer an alternative:
Maybe give these guys the benefit of the doubt. They have given you every chance to believe they are much better than advertised... so maybe take that chance and actually cheer for the team?
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ROTFL!! What fantasy land do you live in??

Look I fully understand the draft is a crap shoot, but it’s the only way we are getting stars, the only way. Markkanen though a good player isn’t a star. Clarkson, not a star, Sexton, not a star. In what fantasy land is this team as constructed a contender? But hey, I’m sure Kevin Durant is just biting his time just waiting to sign with us. Lol
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
ROTFL!! What fantasy land do you live in??

Look I fully understand the draft is a crap shoot, but it’s the only way we are getting stars, the only way. Markkanen though a good player isn’t a star. Clarkson, not a star, Sexton, not a star. In what fantasy land is this team as constructed a contender? But hey, I’m sure Kevin Durant is just biting his time just waiting to sign with us. Lol
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I live in reality. I see a bunch of guys who are intriguing and playing better than expected. I dont know if they can or cannot win in the playoffs.... nor do I pretend to know, like you do.

You say Markkanen isnt a star.... care to show me evindence or justify why not?

On paper, Markkanen does not have many things working against him... so stating he cannot blossom into a star seems foolish. He is for the first time put to a situation where is the #1 option the opponent is trying to take away.. and he seems to be producing pretty nice numbers regardless.

And due to our system of sharing... he isnt getting the touches and FGA the elite guys do. He is literally #1 in the NBA in 3P% and has elite efficiency inside... just lacking superstar usage. His average rank in all advanced all-around stat categories was what 12th best in the NBA? And some of those stats reward higher volumes...

Superstars are really made in the playoffs. Lets get these guys there and see if we have one...

PS: Durant is a bad example. He has 2 chips, both with Steph, Draymond and Klay. Lots of OP Big 3 teams with KD+other stars around him have just blatantly failed.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
ROTFL!! What fantasy land do you live in??

Look I fully understand the draft is a crap shoot, but it’s the only way we are getting stars, the only way. Markkanen though a good player isn’t a star. Clarkson, not a star, Sexton, not a star. In what fantasy land is this team as constructed a contender? But hey, I’m sure Kevin Durant is just biting his time just waiting to sign with us. Lol
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Markkanen is a star and I’m not sure what biting his time means.
 
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