Jazz4ever
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Yeah but KOC assumed it would be muscle, not well deposited burrito supremes in his jowls and buttocks.
Devin Harris on Al Jefferson: Jazz fans will be surprised if they see him
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Yeah but KOC assumed it would be muscle, not well deposited burrito supremes in his jowls and buttocks.
Brown Notes
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Why would Harris make this up?
Joe Bagadonuts
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For the same reason that you might say nice things about your friend. Like everybody else, I hope what Harris is saying is true. I wonder why there are no pictures floating around.
jazzfan1971
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So, someone should sticky a thread.
- Favors has Dwight shoulders
- Miles is in Kobe shape
- Jefferson has dropped noticeable weight
- Hayward is lethal with a railgun
Ok, made that last one up. But, feel free to add to the list if there are any real reports I missed.
- Favors has Dwight shoulders
- Miles is in Kobe shape
- Jefferson has dropped noticeable weight
- Hayward is lethal with a railgun
Ok, made that last one up. But, feel free to add to the list if there are any real reports I missed.
it is irrelevant, i never told kanter is good because of his phsyic, or because he is working hard, it is already something every player should do, he is good because he is talented and has basketball iq which Big Al doesnt have. He can workout day and night, but he wont become a Tim Duncan or Kevin Garnett
I am not gonna ask your permission to come to this forum for sure, if there is something wrong about me, the administrators may take care of it, and people who arent superficial like you, know that i m on this forum long before Kanter was mentioned to be related to Utah in the draft talks and i was never a homer of Memo back then.
I am trying not to talk about Kanter as much as possible but you and zerol has some paranoia about it, i dont like him because he is turkish, i like him because he is good, and probably will be much better than Jefferson after a couple of years. But because he is turkish, i may like him more than if he was an american or spanish or whatever, it is something different to be more favorable on your countrymen while being objective, and being totally a homer neglecting his mistakes. i am totally not like the second one.
I told you guys millions of times but i will tell once more, so i hope this time you will get it. I dont say Big Al is a bad player, he is just not good enough to be franchise player (if its not one of the worst 5 nba teams). But Kanter at least has potential for it. We will see how things will turn out to be, but it is obvious that Big Al isn't the guy for us, neither was Boozer. He has many good sides and skills, but he mess things up with his stupidity, he has low vision in offense, he doesnt have consistent shooting, which is very important in playoffs to have many threats. He scores a lot, and he has good post game, but it is not enough to be a damn franchise player. Dont you guys see his defense? or do you think defense is all about blocking?
Clearly our basketball views are opposite, it is not about being a homer or not. I just think that, if we wanna be contender instead of being a playoff team like last 5 years, we should start our young players (supposedly the future of this team) right away, Why the hell Kanter and Favors, even Burks should wait 1-2 more year to get 20-30 mins? If we will build this team on these guys, they should start, make mistakes, learn from them, get experience and be better in future.
Well if you say, we just drafted Kanter for fun , it is ok then lets not start him, lets play the best roster available right now, so we have more chance to make the playoffs, and we will be eliminated in the first round and continue being on the same level as last 5 years. I am looking from a different standpoint, i dont give a **** if we make playoffs this year, i just care if these guys will make a good chemistry and be a contender in future. And i dont see a Utah in 3 years with Harris and Big Al on the line up. So why dont we trade them while they have some value on the market? Is it better if we wait one more year and let them go without getting anything in return?
If we had 100 million salary cap , i would understand you, so you want a deep big man rotation, kanter, big al, millsap favors even memo, so in a few years, when the young guys will get a higher contract we can still keep Big Al, but right now it doesnt seem possible.
It is basically clear that we have to make a choice, either Big Al or Kanter, because you cant have them both for the next 3 years.
Only logical solution would be here, to see the first year, let Big Al stay just in case and see how kanter adapts the league, if he is really worth of being a 3rd big or a bust, so we can make a decision the following season.
But it is my opinion that, i dont think peoples basketbal iqs and fundamentals change in one summer so easily, so we wont see a Super Big Al next year, so we can let Kanter and Favors play and as much as mistakes they do, we can be patient and see them improve their game if they are really our future.
And i m repeating again, this is my opinion and you dont have to agree with me, but stop doing the same superficial comments about me being a Kanter homer all the time, provide strong back up to ur opinions and show some logical evidence that Big Al should get damn 35 mins per game(not weird synergy defense stats) while we have Favors , Kanter and Millsap so we can discuss about it. But it is really boring when i hear the same thing all the time.
Lakers_Slapper
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Im pretty sure after the age of 10 it goes from "baby fat" to just "fat". Dont listen to everything that your parents are telling you.
The funny thing is that I basically view Kanter as a young version of Al Jefferson. And it would be quite easy to have them both for the next 3 years. Kanter is on his rookie deal for the next 4, and Jefferson is on his current one for two years. Just have to resign Big Al.
Really? I had no idea? (sarcasm). Baby Fat is used to describe a certain kind of fat, like how Jefferson has always kind of had a fat face. OR how Kendrick Perkins neck always has fat rolls on it.
Brown Notes
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Yea but since when do they have a tight relationship off the court? Do they share an agent? I don't see the motivation especially since Harris and Jefferson both have been targets of trade rumors all offseason, here at least.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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This is an idiotic statement, and shows immaturity. Speaking as a big time Jazz and 49ers fan where would Malone And Jerry Rice be if they weren't the hardest workout warriors ever. Your going to sit here and tell us working out harder and longer then you ever have isn't going to help, even just a little!!
green
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This made me laugh. All I could think of was Mac on Sunny in Philly eating hoagies and burritos, getting fat. Funny show.
Is Jefferson on twitter? We need to ask for some shirtless pics.
lol
soo Malone is Malone just because of working out? Thanks, i see you are so mature and intelligent
its ridiculous how people get things by their *** instead of brain and manipulate my words
In sports, everyone needs to workout to get stronger and execute their job better, but if you dont have fundamentals and talent, you already cant rise to where Malone was, Big Al doesnt have any problem with his general strength, he is talented but has problem with fundamentals, decision making and defense, capito?
I think their only similarity is their foot games under the rim.
And even though Kanter is on rookie contract, he will get around 6 in his 3rd year, as well as Favors. Hayward will get less but im pretty sure, we will make a new contract with him instead of giving a qualifying offer for the 4th year which equals to 4,7 million. So if you dont wanna get more than 4 players on the roster we can resign Big Al (which probably he wont agree less than 14 million per year) but i think we gotta have at least 12 to compete, so basically we dont have the flexibility with this group of players to resign Big Al after 3 years (unless we dismiss either kanter or favors)
who expects Big Al to play like Garnett anyways, after a few workouts in the gym?
If working out is going to improve his conditioning and thereby his mobility/quickness/defensive stamina even a small bit, it is still improvement that is very much welcome. Did anyone here say that workouts is the ONLY thing that can make a player great? (Although I can actually make a good case for workout regimen being the difference between good and great in the case of Malone. He certainly didnt have the post moves of an Olajuwon or the versatility of Barkley(who could get away with being a fat *** from time to time because of his talent))
Also, you make it sound like as if Big Al is talentless and wouldnt benefit much from working out in the gym.
the guy i responded to make it sound like workout was the only thing to make Malone that good, so i added, without fundamentals and talent you cant go much further. And i never said Big Al is talentless, he is very talented player who can never use his talents as good as he is supposed to use. If you look at him, he has good post game, big body while not so slow in offense, strength and long arms. But sometimes he messes everything up with some stupid mistakes he does. And i think he will never be a franchise player in a contender thats my only concern, otherwise im not a hater of Big Al , just i dont see him fitting with our goals.
Btw thanks for a pretty logical message without manipulating my points