Did Exum really say that???!!!???

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Um...why?

He didn't work out here and made it clear he didn't want to because we just drafted a point guard.

Your pouty comments are stupid.

And his agent was likely steering where he worked out more than Dante. So, yeah.


yr hardcore failing in this thread. You got trolled by hotttbitchhh... which is embarrassing, I'm sure.

 

[QuinSnydersHair]

Your pouty comments are stupid.

And his agent was likely steering where he worked out more than Dante. So, yeah.


yr hardcore failing in this thread. You got trolled by hotttbitchhh... which is embarrassing, I'm sure.

You're better than this.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Just for fun:


Exum = John Stockton in a Kobe's body.


Burke = Kobe Bryant in a Stockton's body.

2sune

 

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You're better than this.

You're Wes, right?

 

[Hotdog]

Your pouty comments are stupid.

And his agent was likely steering where he worked out more than Dante. So, yeah.


yr hardcore failing in this thread. You got trolled by hotttbitchhh... which is embarrassing, I'm sure.

Look here [size/huge] drama [/size]....All I'm saying is, that it should be expected he isn't going to be happy with the situation, considering what was said and done before the draft. That's not a stretch. How do you even think that it is? If someone says I don't want to play 2nd fiddle, then that probably means they dont. Derrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!

 

[da ThRONe]

I think Exum has better skills than Burke, but Exum has yet to prove that he can be a calming force on the team and lead like Burke can. Like Burke or not, he is one of the few leaders on this team, and he's a stabilizing force when he's running the point.

I like Exum a lot, but our offense performed better this summer when Burke was leading it. Maybe we should wait until the actual games start, and maybe Exum should work on his off-ball skills a little more. Perhaps he's better at the 1, but maybe the team is better when he can play with Burke. It's all about the team…right?

Hell no! Screw waiting that's make wide sweeping opinions and talk about them like they're facts off of 5 SL games because we are clearly bias against Burke!

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

He is a creator with incredible vision. He is not a guy who runs off screens. Give him the ball and he excels. It's just the turnover concern. In 1 years Burke is expendable. In 2 years, he is gone.

 

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Look here [size/huge] drama [/size]....All I'm saying is, that it should be expected he isn't going to be happy with situation, considering what was said and done before the draft. That's not a stretch. How do you even think that it is? If someone says I don't want to play 2nd fiddle, then that probably means they dont. Derrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!

First off, please provide some links. TIA

He's a 19-year old kid who is going to be playing against a vastly superior talent pool than ever before in his life. If he actually thought he'd be "first fiddle," then he's experiencing delusions of grandeur.

What's actually happening here is that he's being quoted out of context.

 

[zman1527]

The team desperately needs someone to stand up and say, "this is my team, give me the ball and get out of my way."

I'm ok with what Exum is doing. Now it's up to him to prove to his teammates that he is better than Burke in training camp and games. If he does that, his teammates will look for him first on outlet passes. We need this. Time to step up Exum and take control.

Agreed in general, but not yet. Give him a couple of years. He is young and inexperienced. Also, Lindsey has said they are not going to skip steps. I think that means that he does not start this year. I think it is clear though that he takes over from Burke eventually.

 

[fallenchicken]

I think the solution is to start Exum as the backup pg--but hopefully giving him more minutes. I'd like to see Exum play against starters and with Hayward/Favors/Burks because I think playing with the better players on our team will benefit him. He's not ready to be a starter yet, from what I saw in summer league. But as the year goes on? Things will get interesting. I don't think it'll take long for him to become clearly better than Burke.

Although I'm not ready to throw Burke out to sea, either. He wasn't great last year but did some good things. We'll see.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I liked Exum's instincts to a natural level too, but judging Burke on summer league when he has already one season of pro experience under his belt does not sound not fair to me. I don't think Burke gave a **** about SL more than the next guy and clutch players like him play better in important games.

So we're okay with Trey shooting 30% on his FG's as long as he hits a couple in the 4th quarter IF the Jazz have a chance of winning? Guess the other players just need to compensate for his terrible shooting for the first 3 quarters. What happens when the Jazz build a team that should compete EVERY game?

Exum IS a better PG and distributor. It was evident in SL. I think DL realizes this too, as the news came out they were looking for another guard. Before SL, all the talk was about a 3-man rotation of Burke, Burks and Exum.

I think the solution is to start Exum as the backup pg--but hopefully giving him more minutes. He's not ready to be a starter yet, from what I saw in summer league. But as the year goes on? Things will get interesting. I don't think it'll take long for him to become clearly better than Burke.

Agree. I really don't see much of a problem THIS season, especially right at the beginning. Burke will play 30 mins at PG as the starter while Exum gets 18 mins. They won't be on the court much together. As Dante improves his conditioning, he should start to build up to around 25 mins per game. They'll have some overlap, but not a lot. Next year - IF Dante is ready - Trey will likely be traded and Neto will come over. To a certain extent, I think Hood also makes Trey expendable. Exum just isn't needed at SG. Hood is going to merit 20-25 mins, meaning Hayward can play some mins at SG instead of being moved to SF full-time.

I think the real tricky situation is in regards to Burks. I sense the Jazz want him to be our Ginobili. Hood showed amazing potential in SL. I wouldn't mind seeing Burke-Hayward-Hood-Kanter-Favors as the starting 5.

But what a GREAT problem to have! Jazz have too many players who could/should be starters (including Gobert). Maybe Utah can make a 2-for-1 trade. What do you think Burke and Kanter could bring us?

 

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One thing Exum might be implying here is that Trey needs to get rid of the ball sooner. That's definitely true.

 

[addictionary]

So we're okay with Trey shooting 30% on his FG's as long as he hits a couple in the 4th quarter IF the Jazz have a chance of winning? Guess the other players just need to compensate for his terrible shooting for the first 3 quarters. What happens when the Jazz build a team that should compete EVERY game?

Exum IS a better PG and distributor. It was evident in SL. I think DL realizes this too, as the news came out they were looking for another guard. Before SL, all the talk was about a 3-man rotation of Burke, Burks and Exum.

I really don't see much of a problem THIS season. Burke will play 30 mins at PG as the starter while Exum gets 18 mins. They won't be on the court together. As Dante improves his conditioning, he should start to build up to around 25 mins per game. They'll have some overlap, but not a lot. Next year - IF Dante is ready, Trey will be traded and Neto will come over. To a certain extent, I think Hood also makes Trey expendable. Exum just isn't needed at SG. Hood is going to merit 20-25 mins, meaning Hayward can play some mins at SG instead of being moved to SF full-time.

Shooting percentage is your thing? Then you will feel sorry a lot this season about Exum. You gotta look at those non statistically aspects or you will feel unsatisfied all the way down.

 

[JAZZGASM]

One thing Exum might be implying here is that the Jazz need to get rid of Trey sooner. That's definitely true.

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[bigmike]

I think what Exum said is pretty benign, frankly. Both he and Trey have made comments that they're both PG's and will need to work together to make things work. Natural PG skills aside, Exum is a true lead guard - he's at his best with the ball in his hands.

The way the roster is currently built, I think this makes sense for the short-term - put the best guards rotation on the floor and figure it out. Once Exum is ready to run PG full-time, Trey won't be around.

 

[da ThRONe]

Shooting percentage is your thing? Then you will feel sorry a lot this season about Exum. You gotta look at those non statistically aspects or you will feel unsatisfied all the way down.

This is where IMO the logical hate for Burke is evident. Exum shoots poorly nobody cares. Burke shoots poorly and this the type of shooter he is his entire career. Burke has flashes of being a superstar while running a God awful system and splitting ball handling duty with Hayward(while he posted mostly career lows in efficiency) and he's trash. Exum plays 5 SL games shows some good things, but otherwise puts in poor stats and he's the next Penny Hardaway.

 

[CALJAZZFAN]

He is a creator with incredible vision. He is not a guy who runs off screens. Give him the ball and he excels. It's just the turnover concern. In 1 years Burke is expendable. In 2 years, he is gone.

This is true. Might be expendable in less than a year, unless he wants to play SG off the bench.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I like how he's just turned 19, has been in the league for like 15 minutes, playing summer league with a bunch of guys he may never see again, and he's still talking about getting the ball more and being aggressive with it. Love it, actually.

 

[The Midnight]

One thing Exum might be implying here is that Trey needs to get rid of the ball sooner. That's definitely true.

And there lies the problem. Burke ain't playing that game. He aint' giving it up for nobody.

 

[The Midnight]

This is where IMO the logical hate for Burke is evident. Exum shoots poorly nobody cares. Burke shoots poorly and this the type of shooter he is his entire career. Burke has flashes of being a superstar while running a God awful system and splitting ball handling duty with Hayward(while he posted mostly career lows in efficiency) and he's trash. Exum plays 5 SL games shows some good things, but otherwise puts in poor stats and he's the next Penny Hardaway.

If you cannot seriously see the potential Exum has over Burke in the long run then I don't know what to say.


- Exum has elite length at the PG position.

- Exum is already a better defender there.

- Exum looks to pass first whereas Burke looks to score (and doing so appallingly as he cannot get to the FT line even if his life was depended on it).

- Exum is quicker - so if nothing's on, with the ball already in his hand, he can just attack the basket (which he did numerous times, ending up with him going to the FT most every time)

- Exum has a much better court vision as a PG that is vital.


Sure, Exum wasn't great shooting in the SL, but his passing & attacking the basket more than made up for it. Also his shot isn't broken like Rubio, so I have complete faith that the coaching staff will work with him.


I don't hate my BMW (Burke), we if there is a race and I have a much faster Porsche 911 out back (Exum) why not use it????