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Tomic + Carroll + Stanley J/Mario/Winslow = offseason.

(edit: I'd also take Corey Joseph, but if they're high on Cotton, then this prolly aint happenin)
 
NAOS said:
Tomic + Carroll + Stanley J/Mario/Winslow = offseason.

(edit: I'd also take Corey Joseph, but if they're high on Cotton, then this prolly aint happenin)
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Only problem is you get Carroll or Johnson/Hezonja/Winslow. Already will be crowded adding one wing to the mix of Hood/Hayward/Burks.
 
sgjazzfan said:
Only problem is you get Carroll or Johnson/Hezonja/Winslow. Already will be crowded adding one wing to the mix of Hood/Hayward/Burks.
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Maybe.

But, Burks can and will play a lot of minutes at the "1". That'll free things up. Quote me on it.
 
sgjazzfan said:
Only problem is you get Carroll or Johnson/Hezonja/Winslow. Already will be crowded adding one wing to the mix of Hood/Hayward/Burks.
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The problem I see in adding Carroll is he will likely look for a starting gig... Are we going to start him or Hood or Burks? He will likely get paid $10+ M per year and I think we'd have to wave Booker to clear enough space to bring in Carroll and Tomic. I got the sense that we likely won't be making a big free agency signing.

I think we will go more to the middle to lower class of free agents. I think we are looking at guys like Jae Crowder, Jonas Jerebko (guys that can play the 3 and small ball 4), Mike Dunleavy, CJ Watson (if Trey is moved). I think we are looking at rotation 15 minute a game guys unless there is some long term plan to move Burks.
 
NAOS said:
Maybe.

But, Burks can and will play a lot of minutes at the "1". That'll free things up. Quote me on it.
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that makes sense... although everyone is going to jump in and say we tried that. I think with our system it would make much more sense to try Alec there. If you put some combo of 3 of Hayward/Hood/Carroll/Burks on the floor there would be mismatches somewhere.

I guess you get Carroll if you can and then figure things out.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
that makes sense... although everyone is going to jump in and say we tried that. I think with our system it would make much more sense to try Alec there. If you put some combo of 3 of Hayward/Hood/Carroll/Burks on the floor there would be mismatches somewhere.

I guess you get Carroll if you can and then figure things out.
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these are my thoughts precisely.

There's no reason you can't play the following combinations:

Burks/Hood/Hayward

Hood/Carroll/Hayward

The other combinations will obviously work. There are minutes.... especially if Exum's leash is shortened a bit, which I expect it to. I also expect him to earn quite a few minutes.
 
Crocodile Dante said:
i have been saying this for a while. Jazz dont run a pg dominate offense
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I also think this is part of the issue with Burke... He likes to control the ball and is a traditional point guard... We need him to move it a bit more.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
that makes sense... although everyone is going to jump in and say we tried that. I think with our system it would make much more sense to try Alec there. If you put some combo of 3 of Hayward/Hood/Carroll/Burks on the floor there would be mismatches somewhere.

I guess you get Carroll if you can and then figure things out.
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Yea the way our new system works you don't really need a PG to play the PG spot. You need somebody that can guard PG's on the perimeter and be effective against PNR's. But the PG in our current system isn't really asked to come down and be the main cog in the offense like in the past.
 
NAOS said:
these are my thoughts precisely.

There's no reason you can't play the following combinations:

Burks/Hood/Hayward

Hood/Carroll/Hayward

The other combinations will obviously work. There are minutes.... especially if Exum's leash is shortened a bit, which I expect it to. I also expect him to earn quite a few minutes.
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Why would Carroll leave Atlanta? They are likely to play him and he already is starting there.

Hmm rotation of Exum, Burks, Hayward, Hood and either Ingles or Millsap would be very interesting defensively. Our size on the perimeter could make our D even better.

Exum 28/ Burks 20
Burks 12/ Hood 28 / Ingles 8
Hayward 35 / Ingles 13
Favors 28 / Booker 20
Gobert 32 / Favors 6 / New Center 10

That give total minutes of

Hayward 35
Favors 34
Burks 32
Gobert 32
Hood 28
Exum 28
Ingles 21
Booker 20
New Center 10

We would miss out on the early offense I think but the D should be outstanding.
 
Carroll will be a Knick next fall. They want him, he wants them, they have money, he wants money...
 
NAOS said:
Maybe.

But, Burks can and will play a lot of minutes at the "1". That'll free things up. Quote me on it.
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I'm fine with that, but that still doesn't leave room for a top draft pick

SG Hayward 30 min
SF Carroll 28 min
SG Burks 15 min (with another 15 at the point)
SF Hood 23 min

total of 96 minutes.


All of those numbers are probably low for what each player should be getting and you are already out of minutes. My point is you don't have room for Carroll AND a top wing pick.

Here's some out of the box thinking that just might work. I know we all love Burks, but we don't know how he will fit in this system. He is a good scorer on a reasonable contract. If we knew we could sign Carroll for less, I think he would be a great option. Played for Quinn and loved it, already knows Utah, and great defender. Then trade Burks and #12 to move up to 6-7 range and draft Hezonja.

You get a better defender at probably a lower salary who would fit perfect, and you get your great shooter/scorer Hezonja.

Exum/Hayward/Carroll/Favors/Gobert. Possibly best defensive starting 5 in the league.

Burke/Hezonja/Hood/Booker/Tomic. Lacks a bit of defense, but they will be fine against backups, and have a lot of scoring punch.

Cotton/Milsap/Ingles/Motum (just cause he's australian) to fill in garbage time and for injuries
 
Howard said:
If Ingles is getting a consistent 20 minutes a game next year, we have a problem.
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This 5-10 minutes per night on the regular and more than that as injuries and other needs dictate it.
 
If we bring over Tomic Im fine with standing pat on FAs.
With Burks, Tomic, and a new lotto pick thats more than enough to make the playoffs, and not ruin chemistry/growth.

Ante Tomic would be our big "FA" addition of the summer.
 
Revolution 9 said:
If we bring over Tomic Im fine with standing pat on FAs.
With Burks, Tomic, and a new lotto pick thats more than enough to make the playoffs, and not ruin chemistry/growth.

Ante Tomic would be our big "FA" addition of the summer.
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Id be thrilled with Tomic and moving up in the draft. Especially if only costs us picks, our expendable contracts and maybe Burke.
 
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