Don't Ask, Don't Tell is officially history!!

[chemdude1232]

You would probably be shocked to know that the military as a whole is far more socially liberal than most Americans would guess. In fact, I would say most military members have a much more enlightened, well rounded view on a wide range of subjects than most civilians.

I'm not shocked at all; I would agree with that. My quip about the 2nd grade mindset was aimed both at the people who are deciding the fate of DADT as well as the media-stereotyped heterosexual soldier who is committed to Red Coding the openly gay soldier (sorry I didn't make that clearer). Though we disagree, I hope you can at least see my point.

 

[C l u t c H 385]

Who said McCain is a homophobe?


Yeah, but that argument is provably incorrect and plainly stupid (at least as it pertains to homosexuals).

You surrisly suck at reading.

 

[The Pearl]

Yeah, but that argument is provably incorrect and plainly stupid (at least as it pertains to homosexuals).

You lost me here. Do me an argument about logistics?

 

[NUMBERICA]

You lost me here. Do me an argument about logistics?

Maybe I didn't understand what you meant, but I read it as gays are somehow inherently less apt to serve than someone that is straight. I probably misunderstood, which is why it sounded so insanely stupid.

 

[NUMBERICA]

You surrisly suck at reading.

No one called McCain a homophobe in this thread. If that is what you were referring to.

 

[C l u t c H 385]

Maybe I didn't understand what you meant, but I read it as gays are somehow inherently less apt to serve than someone that is straight. I probably misunderstood, which is why it sounded so insanely stupid.

No one called McCain a homophobe in this thread. If that is what you were referring to.

Dee duh deeeee!

 

[DutchJazzer]

Tell me when you had to decided to be straight and we might have a discussion from there.

if being gay was genetic or whatever wouldnt the gay gene be extinct by now? its just a choice. easy peasy

 

[NUMBERICA]

Dee duh deeeee!

Feel free to actually say something sometime. I understand if you don't have the patience to put effort into your opinion which is why yours is valued so little.

 

[NUMBERICA]

if being gay was genetic or whatever wouldnt the gay gene be extinct by now? its just a choice. easy peasy

So you didn't choose your orientation. That's what I thought.

 

[DutchJazzer]

also there are bigger issues. dogfighting is illegal(mostly done by blacks) cockfighting is illegal (mostly done by latinos), but bullfighting and rodeo(which is mostly done by the MIGHTY WHITE MAN) which is equally cruel is legal. so that is a fine example of a set of laws that is bigotry and racist.

instead politicians waste their time on arguing letting gays in the army

 

[NUMBERICA]

Bullfighting is not legal in the US and the rodeo is hardly the same as forcing two animals to fight practically to the death.

 

[chemdude1232]

if being gay was genetic or whatever wouldnt the gay gene be extinct by now? its just a choice. easy peasy

Homosexuality's presence is rooted in both evolution and genetics. Googling the terms will give you a plethora of results on that.

 

[C l u t c H 385]

Feel free to actually say something sometime. I understand if you don't have the patience to put effort into your opinion which is why yours is valued so little.

You're adorabl(e)...y stupid.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Bullfighting is not legal in the US and the rodeo is hardly the same as forcing two animals to fight practically to the death.

but not to steer of topic but watching the rodeo is in my opinion equelly cruel

 

[C l u t c H 385]

but not to steer of topic but watching the rodeo is in my opinion equelly cruel

riding a bull with a strap on his junk is the same as drowning, beating, and electrocuting dogs? agree to disagree...

 

[DutchJazzer]

Homosexuality's presence is rooted in both evolution and genetics. Googling the terms will give you a plethora of results on that.

when googling isnt exactly a scientific method. depending on the terms i insert i can find arguments suporting "being gay is a choice" and argument suporting "being gay is not a choice"
depends on what terms i insert.

but now i know where you get your scientific gay data from

 

[chemdude1232]

Why don't you use that amazing download speed of yours and actually read a few articles - rooted in science - that support the fact that homosexuality was wrought by evolution. Or are Dutch people not inclined to do so?

 

[C l u t c H 385]

Why don't you use that amazing download speed of yours and actually read a few articles - rooted in science - that support the fact that homosexuality was wrought by evolution. Or are Dutch people not inclined to do so?

There's plenty "rooted in science" that says anything you want it to.

 

[chemdude1232]

I'll even get you started. Read this:

https://www.adherents.com/misc/paradoxEvolution.html

Then read a few of the references.

 

[chemdude1232]

There's plenty "rooted in science" that says anything you want it to.

While true as a generality, I personally have yet to come in contact with any argument that specifically says that homosexuality is (scientifically) a choice-based lifestyle.