Don't Ask, Don't Tell is officially history!!

[KatieMCR]

Calling McCain "McShame" has nothing to do with how he may or may not feel about homosexuality. This has already been pointed out, but some people continue to miss the point. I'm not going to go over it again. It has already been explained in this thread. Go back and read it. If you still don't get it, there's nothing more I can say to help you.

Why are people arguing how the members of the military feel about repealing DADT? There was already a survey completed showing a majority of the service members have no problem with openly gay service members. What more evidence do you need? Just go back and watch the Jon Stewart video I posted. There's really nothing more that needs to be said.

 

[Gameface]

it interferes with my live. making marriage somekind of abomination. making it a meaningless term. defiling holy matrimony.

As opposed to what Hollywood has been doing to marriage, or what the divorce rate says about the state of marriage today?

Anyway, each marriage is unique and defined by the people participating in it. Marriage is not a person with feelings and a reputation, it is a formal relationship, entered willingly, by two (or more) participants.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

also if homosexuality isnt a choice. pedophilia isnt either.
same thing right
they both have their sexual preferances? or not?

on like men of the same sex. the other of a certain age.
it all comes down to rpeferences

Please tell me this is some sort of parody of yourself.

 

[DutchJazzer]

How is it an abomination, meaningless and defiling in any way, shape or form? Because you feel so?

do i really need to explain that.
you wouldnt understand for you marriage clearly has another meaning.
they just mock the meaning of mariage

 

[Gameface]

also if homosexuality isnt a choice. pedophilia isnt either.
same thing right
they both have their sexual preferences? or not?

one likes men of the same sex. the other human's of a certain age.
it all comes down to preferences

Theres an issue with people able to freely enter into the relationship, who are considered to be legally capable of forming a contract. They are not the same.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

do i really need to explain that.
you wouldnt understand for you marriage clearly has another meaning.
they just mock the meaning of mariage

Yes, explain it. Or can't you?

 

[chemdude1232]

And while you're at it, explain why (as the title of the thread would lead us toward) you wouldn't want to serve in the military with gay folk.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Marriage and the military are disparate things. You still didn't answer my question about why you wouldn't want to serve in the military with gay people.

if i go into battle with someone i need to trust them.
i dont trust WEAK minded men who blame their condition on some sort of evolution/genetics/dissease. they are just makin excuses. would you go into battle with a drunk.
its just a lack of control/ mental weakness.

i would not put my life in the hand of some weak fool. i got a cousin or nephew(dont know the correct term since in the dutch language they are the same) who is gay. if someone ****s with him i'll jump in and fight for him. i will not count on him to watch my back.

hope this puts my opinions in words

 

[DutchJazzer]

Please tell me this is some sort of parody of yourself.

no i mean it
if homosexuality isnt a choice ro whatever.

isnt pedophilia just the same? what makes one a choice and the other not?

 

[NUMBERICA]

if i go into battle with someone i need to trust them.
i dont trust WEAK minded men who blame their condition on some sort of evolution/genetics/dissease. they are just makin excuses. would you go into battle with a drunk.
its just a lack of control/ mental weakness.

i would not put my life in the hand of some weak fool. i got a cousin or nephew(dont know the correct term since in the dutch language they are the same) who is gay. if someone ****s with him i'll jump in and fight for him. i will not count on him to watch my back.

hope this puts my opinions in words

Ask your cousin when he decided he wanted to be gay and I'm sure he'll think you're just as stupid as you actually are.

 

[chemdude1232]

if i go into battle with someone i need to trust them.
i dont trust WEAK minded men who blame their condition on some sort of evolution/genetics/dissease. they are just makin excuses. would you go into battle with a drunk.
its just a lack of control/ mental weakness.

i would not put my life in the hand of some weak fool. i got a cousin or nephew(dont know the correct term since in the dutch language they are the same) who is gay. if someone ****s with him i'll jump in and fight for him. i will not count on him to watch my back.

hope this puts my opinions in words

What about before the repeal of DADT when people (theoretically) couldn't be openly gay? You realize you would have served with gay people unknowingly, right? And that makes it better somehow? So now the fact that they can be openly gay (as opposed to having to be quiet about it) has made the military automatically weaker?

 

[DutchJazzer]

seriously its all about sexual preference and you say it isnt a choice.
why condemn pedophiles?

seriously am i missing something?

 

[C l u t c H 385]

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[chemdude1232]

seriously its all about sexual preference and you say it isnt a choice.
why condemn pedophiles?

seriously am i missing something?

Ok I'll bite on this
https://www.freelawanswer.com/law/1189-freelawanswer.html

 

[NUMBERICA]

seriously its all about sexual preference and you say it isnt a choice.
why condemn pedophiles?

seriously am i missing something?

Yeah, besides a heart and a brain, pedophiles aren't hated because they have a preference, pedophiles are hated because their preference manifests itself as the rape of a child. Having such desires is truly sickly because IT CREATES VICTIMS. I don't sympathize with serial rapists or murderers just because their issue is pathological, either.

 

[NUMBERICA]

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You're a pedophile, then? Thanks for your input.

 

[C l u t c H 385]

good one?

 

[chemdude1232]

No, it was. No question mark needed.

 

[TroutBum]

Good question. Im basing that much of the vitriol is for the most part based in religion.

I wish I could be an Atheist so I could have a fall back answer/smart *** remark about everything.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

no i mean it
if homosexuality isnt a choice ro whatever.

isnt pedophilia just the same? what makes one a choice and the other not?

Well for starters, one leads to a relationship that involves consenting adults, and love or any other positive human emotion of which one could imagine. The other leads to child molestation and not some mature, consenting relationship. If that matters to you.