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DX Video on Damian Lillard

Thee jazz fan said:
Pick'n roll is a great way to open up for the shooters. There are better ways to play offense then one on one play. We need more motion and movement. Just from watching games the opposition always were able to get wide open three after wide open three where they had time to gather themselves set square up, and set their feet, where as the jazz could get open looks, but had to get them off quick and rush the shot. A better offense will get better looks improving our shooting. Pick up a shooter or two in the draft and freeagentcy and our shooting is fine.
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If we ran the pick and roll with Lillard, if the defender wants to go under the screen, Lillard could pop the 3. If he goes over the screen, he can use that speed to into lane and give the ball to the roller for an easy basket. I think the pick and roll would be just as effective with Lillard than Marshall.
 
utahjazz107 said:
If we ran the pick and roll with Lillard, if the defender wants to go under the screen, Lillard could pop the 3. If he goes over the screen, he can use that speed to into lane and give the ball to the roller for an easy basket. I think the pick and roll would be just as effective with Lillard than Marshall.
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That's only utilizing a third of a young talented team, and that only works if Lillard is a top level guy. I just don't see it. If I recall Harris shot 38% from 3 which isn't amazing, but good enough to get the job done. Just being a good shooter and being quick doesn't make someone good in pick'n roll. Our offense is better with a better distributer running the offense.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
That's only utilizing a third of a young talented team, and that only works if Lillard is a top level guy. I just don't see it. If I recall Harris shot 38% from 3 which isn't amazing, but good enough to get the job done. Just being a good shooter and being quick doesn't make someone good in pick'n roll. Our offense is better with a better distributer running the offense.
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Harris did do a good job of shooting this year, but he seemed get most of his off of really easy looks from Al getting doubled in the post. I think Lillard could actually command some attention to free others up. Being a good shooter isn't just about making 3's, it's about drawing defensive attention.
 
Meh, as far as PG's go, I say screw it to this draft and get an SF if we can.
I'm not sold on Marshall or Lilliard.
 
Weezur said:
Meh, as far as PG's go, I say screw it to this draft and get an SF if we can.
I'm not sold on Marshall or Lilliard.
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Agree, unless Marshall is available....

We have two major weaknesses, pg and shooting. Drafting Lillard helps the shooting, but I'm not so sure he is any better then Harris as far as pg skills go. What I'm trying to say is why draft a pg so high if in a year or two we are looking to replace him, then we still need shooting, and a good pg. If Lillard fails to meet our expectations that sets the Jazz back 3-5 years.
 
I've been a Lillard fan for quite a while. After watching the combine, he looked even stronger than he did this past season. The part of the video that says his mid-range game is a question didn't seem to hold much water after watching him at the combine. It wasn't that he didn't have a mid-range game, it's just he chose to either shoot the 3 or drive to the hole. He absolutely was the best mid-range shot out of the entire PG class at the combine.

He in no way has the court vision like Marshall does (it's not even close), but Lillard is far and away better than Marshall in every other area......even defense. If all you have is passing, at least put forth an effort to rebound and defend.......

With Hayward or Burks at the 2, passing won't be as big of an issue as speed and shooting. He can immediately impact this team with his shot.

With PG's, the gap between Lillard and Marshall is massive, especially with our current team make up.
 
One of the things I loved from Lillard in that video is the little floater he has once he gets into the lane. That's a very essential skill for a slightly undersized guard (he's under 200 lbs) because getting to the rim is going to be much more difficult in the NBA than it was playing in the Big Sky Conference. It's also a skill that translates to every single level of the game, plus he's got a tight handle and apparently is a better shooter than John Jenkins. Mark it down, this kid will be a top-10 PG in 3-4 years. I'm a believer, go get him KOC.
 
Oh so you like to rent one that will be fun! Lets draft the future floor leader of our team Lillard. If you have a problem because he isn't a pass happy guard look at the finals they have two guards that create by attacking which opens up their teammates.
 
MattMan said:
I've been a Lillard fan for quite a while. After watching the combine, he looked even stronger than he did this past season. The part of the video that says his mid-range game is a question didn't seem to hold much water after watching him at the combine. It wasn't that he didn't have a mid-range game, it's just he chose to either shoot the 3 or drive to the hole. He absolutely was the best mid-range shot out of the entire PG class at the combine.

He in no way has the court vision like Marshall does (it's not even close), but Lillard is far and away better than Marshall in every other area......even defense. If all you have is passing, at least put forth an effort to rebound and defend.......

With Hayward or Burks at the 2, passing won't be as big of an issue as speed and shooting. He can immediately impact this team with his shot.

With PG's, the gap between Lillard and Marshall is massive, especially with our current team make up.
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Anything but the young 4 for Lillard.

Make it happen KOC.
 
It's funny to hear people complain about Lillard's PG skills. As if the final 4 PGs in the WC/EC finals were "true" PGs. Chalmers, Parker, Westbrook, and Rondo aren't exactly your old school point guards. And that's without talking about Rose. The NBA has changed over the past 30 years. Strong, offensively gifted PGs who look for their own shots, athletic, and can defend are having much more success than before. In fact, the top PGs in the league fit that mold. From Dwill to CP3. Even the lower tier guys like Sessions, Lowry, Collison, Holiday, etc are all score first guys.

I have more questions about Marshall's athleticism and shooting than Lillard's PG skills.

Ultimately, I don't think this is a strong draft for PGs. I know getting a PG is on everybody's mind it seems like... But last I checked our wings sucked too. We couldn't make a 3 to save our lives most of this season (and all playoffs). If we somehow find a way to get into the lotto this year via trade, I'd be supremely disappointed if we didn't at least EXPLORE the option of drafting another wing.
 
The Thriller said:
It's funny to hear people complain about Lillard's PG skills. As if the final 4 PGs in the WC/EC finals were "true" PGs. Chalmers, Parker, Westbrook, and Rondo aren't exactly your old school point guards. And that's without talking about Rose. The NBA has changed over the past 30 years. Strong, offensively gifted PGs who look for their own shots, athletic, and can defend are having much more success than before. In fact, the top PGs in the league fit that mold. From Dwill to CP3. Even the lower tier guys like Sessions, Lowry, Collison, Holiday, etc are all score first guys.

I have more questions about Marshall's athleticism and shooting than Lillard's PG skills.

Ultimately, I don't think this is a strong draft for PGs. I know getting a PG is on everybody's mind it seems like... But last I checked our wings sucked too. We couldn't make a 3 to save our lives most of this season (and all playoffs). If we somehow find a way to get into the lotto this year via trade, I'd be supremely disappointed if we didn't at least EXPLORE the option of drafting another wing.

Personally, I think Lillard looks a lot like Tony Parker....
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Trying not be a homer, but how can you call Rondo anything but a pure PG? Is he a combo? A point-forward? I kid, but seriously?
 
PKM said:
Trying not be a homer, but how can you call Rondo anything but a pure PG? Is he a combo? A point-forward? I kid, but seriously?
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I didn't say that at all.

Rondo is something we haven't seen before. The way he collects rebounds, can score, and all those other weird things he does is something completely out of the ordinary. Rondo most certainly is a PG... But he's more than that. He's in his own category. How many more times does he need to outrebound his starting frontcourt before we understand this?
 
The Thriller said:
I didn't say that at all.

Rondo is something we haven't seen before. The way he collects rebounds, can score, and all those other weird things he does is something completely out of the ordinary. Rondo most certainly is a PG... But he's more than that. He's in his own category.
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Cool. I like that explanation.
 
I forgot how good of a shooter Lillard is. He's basically everything that Jimmer wished he could be....

I might have to disagree w/what I said before. If we can get into the lotto we might just focus in on Lillard. His ability to create off the dribble, defend, and shoot 3s is exactly what we need.
 
The Thriller said:
I didn't say that at all.

Rondo is something we haven't seen before. The way he collects rebounds, can score, and all those other weird things he does is something completely out of the ordinary. Rondo most certainly is a PG... But he's more than that. He's in his own category. How many more times does he need to outrebound his starting frontcourt before we understand this?
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Rondo is a pure pg who is very gifted quick strong, and has a very very big time competitive fire.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWsbSiTc32I&feature=plcp

They have a ton of interviews from the combine too.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Rondo is a pure pg who is very gifted quick strong, and has a very very big time competitive fire.
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He's more than this.

I've never seen a player like Rondo before. His ability to score, his instincts, and his ability to just make plays rivals that of any (great) athlete I've ever seen in any sport. That broken play where he tipped the ball PERFECTLY (over Lebron) for a Pietrus 3 after Bass was stuffed at the rim by a terrific block from Wade was one of the greatest and smartest plays I have ever seen. One of many incredible plays made by that man in these playoffs.

Found it. This was incredible...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klrzc2Vz1ZA
 
The Thriller said:
I forgot how good of a shooter Lillard is. He's basically everything that Jimmer wished he could be....

I might have to disagree w/what I said before. If we can get into the lotto we might just focus in on Lillard. His ability to create off the dribble, defend, and shoot 3s is exactly what we need.
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I hope your right. Because right now, to me he's unproven, and played in a league with inferior talent. He was the best player by far, and he couldn't win the league. It will be a risk for any team to pick him between 6-12 range. I'm not saying he shouldn't be picked in that range, but there are more proven talent in that range.
 
The Thriller said:
He's more than this.

I've never seen a player like Rondo before. His ability to score, his instincts, and his ability to just make plays rivals that of any (great) athlete I've ever seen in any sport. That broken play where he tipped the ball PERFECTLY (over Lebron) for a Pietrus 3 after Bass was stuffed at the rim by a terrific block from Wade was one of the greatest and smartest plays I have ever seen. One of many incredible plays made by that man in these playoffs.

Found it. This was incredible...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klrzc2Vz1ZA
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Thanks for agreeing with me. He is everything you said he was in your quote. What I'm saying is he is a pass first old school pg who has crazy skills.
 
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