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Embiid or Exum

If Parker and Wiggins are off the board, should the Jazz take Embiid or Exum?

  • Embiid

    Votes: 25 45.5%

  • Exum

    Votes: 14 25.5%

  • Neither; Smart, Randle, or Gordon.

    Votes: 6 10.9%

  • Not sure yet

    Votes: 10 18.2%
  • Total voters
    55
Not planning on getting pick 1-3 (or even 4).
Projected picks 4-9 are all power forwards or point guards. Not sure how much better than Kanter or Trey any of them are but it looks like our selection will likely fall in that range.

If we can't get Wiggins, Parker or Embiid, are any of the next 6 picks a significant upgrade?
 
This is a tough call for me. I'd need to see an honest medical appraisal on Embiid. He's potentially dominant as a center on both ends, whereas I still see Favors and Kanter as PFs. I'd resolve this question before looking at Exum, Randle or Gordon.
 
Growlor said:
Not planning on getting pick 1-3 (or even 4).
Projected picks 4-9 are all power forwards or point guards. Not sure how much better than Kanter or Trey any of them are but it looks like our selection will likely fall in that range.

If we can't get Wiggins, Parker or Embiid, are any of the next 6 picks a significant upgrade?
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A. Gordon is likely an NBA 3. Won't struggle guarding it all. Extremely athletic. Great rebounder, and passer, but can't make free-throws.

If no Wiggins, I like Gordon with 5th pick or later.
 
If Gordon had a decent shot he would be fighting for the #1 pick right now.......I still think he can learn to shoot. I believe he will be the youngest player in the draft.
 
Hax0rs said:
There is a chance that Embiid ends up like Oden. You don't take that risk with the #3 pick. I honestly believe that Randle is the second/third best player in this draft, I go BPA.
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There's a chance every player can "end up like Oden".
 
Aaron Gordon reminds me of Blake Griffin. Griffin has been able to get his free throw shooting up and he developed a nice little jump shot.

Gordon can do the same.......but most the time he's just going to dunk on your face :)
 
Beantown said:
Aaron Gordon reminds me of Blake Griffin. Griffin has been able to get his free throw shooting up and he developed a nice little jump shot.

Gordon can do the same.......but most the time he's just going to dunk on your face :)
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Honestly there almost the same player. Griffin is a bigger and stronger version. Gordon is a better defender.

I laugh when people are disappointed with this draft. To me it's as good as advertised so long as the main guys come out.
 
Beantown said:
Aaron Gordon reminds me of Blake Griffin. Griffin has been able to get his free throw shooting up and he developed a nice little jump shot.

Gordon can do the same.......but most the time he's just going to dunk on your face :)
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Gordon can already hit the 3 occasionally. He's .349 this year and 5-8 the last 4 games from 3.

Jazz should try to lure Ray Allen here by overpaying him for 2 years to come and teach our players how to shoot.
 
da ThRONe said:
Honestly there almost the same player. Griffin is a bigger and stronger version. Gordon is a better defender.

I laugh when people are disappointed with this draft. To me it's as good as advertised so long as the main guys come out.
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The defense difference is huge. It more than makes up for the 1" difference. Gordon is an elite elite defender. He could easily defend NBA 3. His handles are decent, and he can pass. In all honesty, he has more potential as an NBA 3 if he can get consistent with his shot--especially when you consider how he is not a post player. He's a posterizer.
 
Sexual Favors said:
No worse than even Malone..
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I would take Gordon over Exum without even thinking. Now that's elite quickness and speed which will translate in NBA without problems! And his ball handling and dribble is way more impressive then Exum's as well.
 
Sexual Favors said:
That's the whole quote.
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That's my point. Either you have never seen Malone play or you included him by mistake. He was elite defender at his position. And Kanter brings defensive ineptitude to the whole different level even compared to Boozer or Griffin.
 
AKMVP said:
That's my point. Either you have never seen Malone play or you included him by mistake. He was elite defender at his position. And Kanter brings defensive ineptitude to the whole different level even compared to Boozer or Griffin.
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I saw plenty of Malone. Malone was really good at positional defense. He was not a shot blocker, which is what everyone acts like kanter should be. When Malone got burned he'd foul hard. That's what people need to learn to expect from Kanter. It also didn't hurt Malone that he played w/ other excellent defenders like Stockton, Eaton, etc. My point with that whole list was if you surround a non shot blocking big w/ good defenders, you don't notice their shortcomings as long as they are getting into positions. As of late, Kanter has been getting into his positions.
 
Sexual Favors said:
I saw plenty of Malone. Malone was really good at positional defense. He was not a shot blocker, which is what everyone acts like kanter should be.
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And Kanter is really bad at that. Heck everybody is scoring on Kanter at will. Again, look at 82games.com and his own production vs his opponent production - he is worst in the league!
 
AKMVP said:
And Kanter is really bad at that. Heck everybody is scoring on Kanter at will. Again, look at 82games.com and his own production vs his opponent production - he is worst in the league!
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He is a young player. You need to look at young players incrementally in like 10 game stretches to see where they are going. Kanter's positions as of late have been fine.

They could be better, but the sky is no longer falling.


Our team defense sucks.
 
AKMVP said:
Embiid is much more polished offensively than Oden. And stress fracture of one vertebra which does not require surgery is nowhere near as dangerous as knee problems Oden had. Yes the risk is there but is not as bad.
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As someone who played high school sports and had a stress fracture on my L5 my senior year (including multiple problems w/ my L5 S1 disc) my life has never been the same from that day forward.

da ThRONe said:
There's a chance every player can "end up like Oden".
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I just refer to Oden because he's the only center I can think of in recent history with as much hype.

I like Embiid, I really do. As a GM, I just don't take the risk on a center with a bad back or knees with the #3 pick, especially in this draft.
 
I say stay way from players with any known serious back, knee, foot, or mental problems. Surely we've learned our lesson with Luther Wright and Curtis Borchardt?
 
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