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Jingled said:








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The answer to small-ball actually isn't defense in the context of Rudy. It is that he HAS to impose his will on the game when he is so much bigger. He has to draw triple teams on every roll and has to be able to punish when they switch a guard on him in single coverage with aplomb.

Some of this stuff is outside of Gobert's wheelhouse, but I cannot be convinced that he can't bully a guard and just spin and dunk. We don't need immense skill, we simply need him to play his size. Gobert plays a cerebral and conservative game, but at a certain point, his mentality needs to shift into the alpha he thinks he is and just yak on fools smaller than him.
 
So a while before we traded for Conley, a report came out that he told his agent he didn't want to go to Utah. We argued about it for a while before he got traded here.

After hearing his exit interview, I don't see any chance that he comes back. I don't think he wanted to come here in the first place.

Time will tell, but his whole trade will look awful when all is said and done. Really, really awful. You're welcome Mike for finally getting you that All Star Game.

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Jingled said:
Just reading between the lines from Conley's interview, it doesn't seem to me he's all that committed to being back with the Jazz next season.
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His comments last night were also those of reflection on the time he had here and kinda odd. I don’t think we are his number 1 option.

Here is the issue... if we go 2/40 or 2/50 it’s kinda the fair range imo... he could look to take a ring chasing MLE type deal and the money isn’t materially different. So join the Lakers for 4/45 or something like that... Miami or Dallas could chase him too. So we kinda need to do like 3/55 or 2/50 and going over that is real dicey given his health history. He could be like CP and find that second wind I guess but that’s a tough bet to make.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It comes down to one on one defense. Have to make things harder so teams can't just do what they want when they want. Jazz make it way too easy to navigate the court.
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I am fairly sure we pressure up so they cant shoot off the dribble... betting that Rudy can help. But then our rotations get sloppy... even if Rudy cuts off the paint.

It’s partly scheme partly talent partly drive. We also don’t get physical... not sure if it’s because we avoid fouling or just don’t have those types on the roster.

I don’t know that we can just use the old “do it better” method anymore.
 
NUMBERICA said:
The answer to small-ball actually isn't defense in the context of Rudy. It is that he HAS to impose his will on the game when he is so much bigger. He has to draw triple teams on every roll and has to be able to punish when they switch a guard on him in single coverage with aplomb.

Some of this stuff is outside of Gobert's wheelhouse, but I cannot be convinced that he can't bully a guard and just spin and dunk. We don't need immense skill, we simply need him to play his size. Gobert plays a cerebral and conservative game, but at a certain point, his mentality needs to shift into the alpha he thinks he is and just yak on fools smaller than him.
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He needs to catch the ball and hang on to it and impose his force and energy on the smaller players. Rudy is way too soft and until he strengthens his hands and can hang on to the ball, he will be a liability when teams pressure him on defense. He needs to have a kick-me-some-*** attitude
 
Why didn't the Jazz insert Favs with Rudy when they went small and play double low post on offence? Then if noting else they are being forced to adjust. You are playing two two man games and one of the other should have at worst a three foot shot.
 
MT Steve said:


This comment really rubs me the wrong way.

You left a god damn 41% 3 pt shooter completely wide open all game. As in you literally didn't even guard him from 3.

What did you think would happen?
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Playing the averages in an elimination game is ****ing stupid. Is he familiar with the law of large numbers? It's not that weird to flip 5 tails in a row, but in order for regression to happen, you need a larger and larger sample. The sample size where the averages matter is gone in an elimination game. It's not a question of a sample, it is the population. It is the whole thing.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Playing the averages in an elimination game is ****ing stupid. Is he familiar with the law of large numbers? It's not that weird to flip 5 tails in a row, but in order for regression to happen, you need a larger and larger sample. The sample size where the averages matter is gone in an elimination game. It's not a question of a sample, it is the population. It is the whole thing.
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Well it’s clear Quin is consistent... he going down with his convictions.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Playing the averages in an elimination game is ****ing stupid. Is he familiar with the law of large numbers? In short, it's not that weird to get 5 tails in a row, but in order for regression to happen, you need a larger and larger sample. In an elimination game, the game is the population. It's the whole thing.
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Not to mention a player's shooting %'s under normal circumstances are going to differ drastically from if they're just left to take warm-up shots all game long.

A 41% 3 pt shooter in-game is going to shoot a much higher percentage in warmups or in an empty gym practicing when nobody's guarding him, when he has all day to fire, when he's already in rhythm.
 
Ujfanatic said:
Why not?
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I think because we are over the apron. There are limits on sign and trades when you are in the tax. We might be able to do something if we clear some salary but good luck.
 
NUMBERICA said:
You attacking Royce of all people at this point exposes your hate for the dude. Royce was the only dude playing with any oomph besides Donovan, the only dude consistently helping Rudy on D and on the boards, and the only dude really digging out possessions out of pure effort for the team.

The Jazz didn’t lose because they couldn’t score, it’s because they were sloppy and couldn’t get stops. Those problems would’ve been much worse without Royce and he was great in the playoffs.
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He was awesome last night... I guess some dudes just **** post and don’t watch.
 
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