Exum Injured

[fishonjazz]

No, shooting 2-22 hurts the offense.

I think both hurt the offense which is why we had the worst pg rotation in the league.
Both our point guards sucked. There was even a graph that someone recently posted that was hilarious because of how good our front court was and how laughably bad our backcourt was

 

[fufo]

Brace Yourselves

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[fishonjazz]

Those who think this injury doesn't matter much sure do have a different concept of this team's success blueprint than me. This is a major blow. Obviously the team needs to get the final opinion from their own doctors, but if initial reports are confirmed DL has a big task in front of him. He's got to find a starting point guard because unless someone has improved drastically I don't think we have one on the roster. We cannot leave this need unfilled. If we do the team is going to start bleeding talent as these contracts expire. It is critical that management prove to all the players that they are 100% committed to winning. That means we might soon have to cash in lots of assets, potentially including either Hood or Burks. Damn, that's gunna hurt.

Ya how will we ever find a guy who can get us a couple of points and a couple of assists, never get to the line, shoot poor percentages, and play good defense.

Sounds impossible really

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

I thought Siro was talking about his offensive impact. Dante sucked offensively. He did nothing but spot-up. He attempted more 3s than 2s and shot only %31. He was a 3&D player without the 3. Just because his defense makes his overall impact plus doesn't mean he is a good offensive player.

Never said he was a good offensive player, and I stand by my assertion that he was an overall positive impact player because he didn't hurt the team by wasting offensive possessions. Like I said, neutral on the offensive side and positive on the defensive side. Replacing him with Trey "negative on both sides" Burke will definitely hurt us, unless Trey has a breakout year. I won't be holding my breath.

 

[The Midnight]

5 out of top 7 draftees in the 2014 NBA draft now potentially out for significant time.

- Embiid.

- Aaron Gordon.

- Jabari Parker.

- Julius Randle.

- Dante Exum (knock wood).

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

I think both hurt the offense which is why we had the worst pg rotation in the league.
Both our point guards sucked. There was even a graph that someone recently posted that was hilarious because of how good our front court was and how laughably bad our backcourt was

One hurts the team a whole lot more, which might have had something to do with why Q made the switch in the first place. Also, Utah started winning a whole lot more around that time and maybe you think that was a coincidence, but I do not.

 

[The Midnight]

Those who think this injury doesn't matter much sure do have a different concept of this team's success blueprint than me. This is a major blow. Obviously the team needs to get the final opinion from their own doctors, but if initial reports are confirmed DL has a big task in front of him. He's got to find a starting point guard because unless someone has improved drastically I don't think we have one on the roster. We cannot leave this need unfilled. If we do the team is going to start bleeding talent as these contracts expire. It is critical that management prove to all the players that they are 100% committed to winning. That means we might soon have to cash in lots of assets, potentially including either Hood or Burks. Damn, that's gunna hurt.

Hopefully we can grab an up and coming PG from a team that already has a starting PG (i.e., Schröder from Atlanta).


If not he needs to take a gamble in the next couple of drafts and try to pick out a Tony Parker type pick for us.

 

[Hekate]

Never said he was a good offensive player, and I stand by my assertion that he was an overall positive impact player because he didn't hurt the team by wasting offensive possessions. Like I said, neutral on the offensive side and positive on the defensive side. Replacing him with Trey "negative on both sides" Burke will definitely hurt us, unless Trey has a breakout year. I won't be holding my breath.

I don't think anyone is arguing Trey would help us better than Exum but Exum is not definitely neutral offense. He is minimizing his poor play but that doesn't stop him from being a negative on the offensive side. He doesn't hit his shots and constantly hurts the spacing. He is below league average by 4% on his 3% and that is factoring in bigs. He also got to the line 32 times in 82 games.

I think Jazzfanz is getting used to poor PG play. A good offensive PG could do wonders for this team.

 

[fishonjazz]

Never said he was a good offensive player, and I stand by my assertion that he was an overall positive impact player because he didn't hurt the team by wasting offensive possessions. Like I said, neutral on the offensive side and positive on the defensive side. Replacing him with Trey "negative on both sides" Burke will definitely hurt us, unless Trey has a breakout year. I won't be holding my breath.

If what you say is true then just replace him with ellijah millsap.
Millsap probably is happy just to be in the nba so he will do whatever the coaches ask.
Snyder can tell millsap to go out and play great defense (which he does) and on the offensive side just stand on the 3 point line and defer to his teammates.

Problem solved

 

[fishonjazz]

One hurts the team a whole lot more, which might have had something to do with why Q made the switch in the first place. Also, Utah started winning a whole lot more around that time and maybe you think that was a coincidence, but I do not.

I think it was the subtraction of kanter and the addition of Gobert.

 

[The Fresh Prince]

Y'all who are saying the season is going to be just fine without Exum are missing the ****ing point.

This season was going to be fun because we were going to have the chance to watch the development of a potential championship team. Without Exum, this team is not championship potential. So we can win more games than last season, and we probably will, but it means jack squat. I could care less about a middling team.

That's why save Favors becoming elite, this is going to be a long season.

Heh. I'm over here laughing my *** off from this post. From the sounds of it you think this is like some movie. Like Mighty Ducks or Remember the Titans, or that Hugh Jackman and Keanu football movie. How does a sophomore who has NO offensive protege and has above average defense for a crutch solidify ****? We can go get a servicsble vet guard and be in the same boat as we would with Exum. Get out of this "but, but Exum is the final key piece to make us immortal" phase. Either he sinks or floats.. and since he came into the league, he looks average at best.

 

[cowhide]

I cannot believe some of the comments about this. The same people talking about trading for another point guard while expressing little or no disappointment that Dante got hurt are probably the same fans who whine about players not being loyal to the Jazz. This is terrible news not just because losing Dante potentially for the season will hurt the team (despite what critics say) on the court but it is just sad to see a young kind promising player go down like this. I hope he can fully recover and I am still holding out hope that it isn't as serious as it looked but my main concern about the injury is that hopefully Dante can fully recover.

 

[Flc]

I cannot believe some of the comments about this. The same people talking about trading for another point guard while expressing little or no disappointment that Dante got hurt are probably the same fans who whine about players not being loyal to the Jazz. This is terrible news not just because losing Dante potentially for the season will hurt the team (despite what critics say) on the court but it is just sad to see a young kind promising player go down like this. I hope he can fully recover and I am still holding out hope that it isn't as serious as it looked but my main concern about the injury is that hopefully Dante can fully recover.

Well f'n said.

 

[The Fresh Prince]

I cannot believe some of the comments about this. The same people talking about trading for another point guard while expressing little or no disappointment that Dante got hurt are probably the same fans who whine about players not being loyal to the Jazz. This is terrible news not just because losing Dante potentially for the season will hurt the team (despite what critics say) on the court but it is just sad to see a young kind promising player go down like this. I hope he can fully recover and I am still holding out hope that it isn't as serious as it looked but my main concern about the injury is that hopefully Dante can fully recover.

Because from a fans POV Exum isn't going to be the main fortitude to our playoff push. Hed be a piece, but nobody is going to go on a rave of his 6 points per and 4 assists in 29 minutes per game. He's a pick everyone has been iffy about anyways so hopefully he's ok, but if he's derailed then hey, we swung for the fences and struck out.

You people need to chill. Really. Don't go catching a heart attack.

 

[Miggs]

I cannot believe some of the comments about this. The same people talking about trading for another point guard while expressing little or no disappointment that Dante got hurt are probably the same fans who whine about players not being loyal to the Jazz. This is terrible news not just because losing Dante potentially for the season will hurt the team (despite what critics say) on the court but it is just sad to see a young kind promising player go down like this. I hope he can fully recover and I am still holding out hope that it isn't as serious as it looked but my main concern about the injury is that hopefully Dante can fully recover.

Am I one of those posters?

 

[The Midnight]

I cannot believe some of the comments about this. The same people talking about trading for another point guard while expressing little or no disappointment that Dante got hurt are probably the same fans who whine about players not being loyal to the Jazz. This is terrible news not just because losing Dante potentially for the season will hurt the team (despite what critics say) on the court but it is just sad to see a young kind promising player go down like this. I hope he can fully recover and I am still holding out hope that it isn't as serious as it looked but my main concern about the injury is that hopefully Dante can fully recover.

I think it goes without saying that we're all a bit sad and disappointed that Dante is hurt, just because we're not crying about it doesn't mean we don't feel sad about the situation.


Regarding the trades, yes Dante going down is sad and depressing but life moves on and Gobert, Favors and Hayward deserves a PG to excel next year and trying to make the playoffs regardless. It would be unfair to them and the team as a whole if DL does not at least explore ways in which we can improve if Exum is indeed out for a whole season.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I'm going to look for positives here. During the free agency period, there was some debate amongst us about maybe getting a starter and letting Dante develop as a backup and trading Trey. Now that plan can proceed, except it will be delayed a bit. Trey can up his value by starting. Then DL can look to flip Trey and other assets for a better vet near the trade deadline. Dante comes back from his injury, plays backup minutes and develops his offense. He was NOT ready to start last season and - judging by his national team play - hasn't developed a great deal yet over last year.

 

[da ThRONe]

Heh. I'm over here laughing my *** off from this post. From the sounds of it you think this is like some movie. Like Mighty Ducks or Remember the Titans, or that Hugh Jackman and Keanu football movie. How does a sophomore who has NO offensive protege and has above average defense for a crutch solidify ****? We can go get a servicsble vet guard and be in the same boat as we would with Exum. Get out of this "but, but Exum is the final key piece to make us immortal" phase. Either he sinks or floats.. and since he came into the league, he looks average at best.

Only part I disagree with is being in the same boat with a vet PG. Honestly you guys are better off with a vet PG. I understand the hope for Exum, but people here have vastly overrated his talent and importance to the team.

 

[The Fresh Prince]

I'm going to look for positives here. During the free agency period, there was some debate amongst us about maybe getting a starter and letting Dante develop as a backup and trading Trey. Now that plan can proceed, except it will be delayed a bit. Trey can up his value by starting. Then DL can look to flip Trey and other assets for a better vet near the trade deadline. Dante comes back from his injury, plays backup minutes and develops his offense. He was NOT ready to start last season and - judging by his national team play - hasn't developed a great deal yet over last year.

He sees the light. He's in this place called reality. Unlike some of you who think Dantes presence is that of Mr. Miyaki.

 

[Sexual Favors]

Hopefully we can grab an up and coming PG from a team that already has a starting PG (i.e., Schröder from Atlanta).


If not he needs to take a gamble in the next couple of drafts and try to pick out a Tony Parker type pick for us.

Schroeder!!!!!!!