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fishonjazz said:
If what you say is true then just replace him with ellijah millsap.
Millsap probably is happy just to be in the nba so he will do whatever the coaches ask.
Snyder can tell millsap to go out and play great defense (which he does) and on the offensive side just stand on the 3 point line and defer to his teammates.

Problem solved
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We all know Burke will be the replacement, and overall it will hurt us on both sides of the floor. Sorry, but I'm not looking forward to another year of Trey running the offense and getting torched defensively. I've seen enough of Trey that I have little confidence he'll overcome his size/speed issues. It seems you and some others have been assuming Dante would be the exact same player as last year, but at least he had the potential for a major breakout, which I don't see with Trey.
 
Well, if anything we will see what we really have in Burke.

Let's see what you do with the opportunity big dog. Hopefully it's not an ACL though.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
We all know Burke will be the replacement, and overall it will hurt us on both sides of the floor. Sorry, but I'm not looking forward to another year of Trey running the offense and getting torched defensively. I've seen enough of Trey that I have little confidence he'll overcome his size/speed issues. It seems you and some others have been assuming Dante would be the exact same player as last year, but at least he had the potential for a major breakout, which I don't see with Trey.
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Obviously nobody wants to replace Exum with Burke, but I have faith in Burke. Probably second most to Dal.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
We all know Burke will be the replacement, and overall it will hurt us on both sides of the floor. Sorry, but I'm not looking forward to another year of Trey running the offense and getting torched defensively. I've seen enough of Trey that I have little confidence he'll overcome his size/speed issues. It seems you and some others have been assuming Dante would be the exact same player as last year, but at least he had the potential for a major breakout, which I don't see with Trey.
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If this was the first post I read in this thread, I would've thought that Burke orchestrated a Jeff Gillooly style hit on Exums leg to regain the starting PG role. :)
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
We all know Burke will be the replacement, and overall it will hurt us on both sides of the floor. Sorry, but I'm not looking forward to another year of Trey running the offense and getting torched defensively. I've seen enough of Trey that I have little confidence he'll overcome his size/speed issues. It seems you and some others have been assuming Dante would be the exact same player as last year, but at least he had the potential for a major breakout, which I don't see with Trey.
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Ahh the good ole hypocrisy of assuming only Exum can improve has made it's way into the thread. Finally!
 
My big question is if the ankle injury was fully healed before he went to play for Australia and if the weakness in that joint contributed to the knee injury.
 
akirac73 said:
If this was the first post I read in this thread, I would've thought that Burke orchestrated a Jeff Gillooly style hit on Exums leg to regain the starting PG role. :)
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Yeah, it's pretty bad when I'd rather have a ****-faced Ty Lawson running our offense before Trey. I really hope he proves me completely wrong. He won't.
 
Ellis269 said:
My big question is if the ankle injury was fully healed before he went to play for Australia and if the weakness in that joint contributed to the knee injury.
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Was it the same leg? Usually that's the other way around because one compensates.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
Which part of his game gives you faith, the weak defense or the complete lack of awareness when his shot isn't falling?
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The part that allowed him to lead the team in apg and assist% and post an impressive assist to turnover ratio. The big games he's already posted in two NBA season's. All most all NBA players aren't at their full potential defensively early in their careers. Also being a great athlete isn't a perquisite for being a quality defender.
 
da ThRONe said:
Ahh the good ole hypocrisy of assuming only Exum can improve has made it's way into the thread. Finally!
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Big difference between the two. Exum had elite size and quickness for his position, and therefore doesn't have the same obstacles to overcome. Also, Exum was already solid on one end of the floor in his first year, compared to Trey being weak on both ends through 2 full years. Trey can get better, but the difference in potential is significant, to say the least.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
Big difference between the two. Exum had elite size and quickness for his position, and therefore doesn't have the same obstacles to overcome. Also, Exum was already solid on one end of the floor in his first year, compared to Trey being weak on both ends through 2 full years. Trey can get better, but the difference in potential is significant, to say the least.
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Don't bother man, some people just don't want to see it. If they can't even acknowledge the defensive impact Exum had, then it's a lost cause.
 
da ThRONe said:
The part that allowed him to lead the team in apg and assist% and post an impressive assist to turnover ratio. The big games he's already posted in two NBA season's. All most all NBA players aren't at their full potential defensively early in their careers. Also being a great athlete isn't a perquisite for being a quality defender.
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Trey aint getting any taller and he aint getting any quicker. His only hope is that he gets smarter, that is a big ask given his two full years of work so far. If he's not taking a tonne less shots i won't be watching many games this year. So far the guy has been a defensive sieve and a deluded ball hog.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
Big difference between the two. Exum had elite size and quickness for his position, and therefore doesn't have the same obstacles to overcome. Also, Exum was already solid on one end of the floor in his first year, compared to Trey being weak on both ends through 2 full years. Trey can get better, but the difference in potential is significant, to say the least.
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Exum doesn't have "elite" quickness unless you mean for his size and even then I don't know if I'd call it elite. We can agree he has more tangible gift than Burke. Doesn't make him a better player. Burke improved on defense last year another thing Burke detractors fail to mention. Exum only focused on defense and that's where all his energy went. People say that it was best for the team that Exum used his energy there and that's probably true, but you can't over look him being a complete non factor on offense. Can he overcome it and be a special two way player sure, but the same is true for Burke. Both guys are still developing.
 
Howard said:
Don't bother man, some people just don't want to see it. If they can't even acknowledge the defensive impact Exum had, then it's a lost cause.
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Has someone said that Exum is a poor defender?
 
Howard said:
Don't bother man, some people just don't want to see it. If they can't even acknowledge the defensive impact Exum had, then it's a lost cause.
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Strawman. Nobody dismissed Exum's D. This whole discussion started due to the hilarious fantasy that our playoffs hopes hung on Exum being healthy.
 
Both trey and Exum sucked last year.

I think that if exum is out next year then DL/Snyder will come up with an option that is not trey burke
 
DownUnder said:
Trey aint getting any taller and he aint getting any quicker. His only hope is that he gets smarter, that is a big ask given his two full years of work so far. If he's not taking a tonne less shots i won't be watching many games this year. So far the guy has been a defensive sieve and a deluded ball hog.
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OK so Trey isn't getting any taller and it's not likely he'll get significantly quicker. Can you tell me how much more skilled he will or won't get? No you can't. His ball handling already got better from year one to two and it showed as he got to the basket easier. Are you telling me his handles are done improving? Not to mention his defense improved at the end of season. Saying the guy can't get better is what I don't understand.
 
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