homeytennis
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He's returning from a very serious injury.
Exum needs to play over Mack
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He's returning from a very serious injury.
Engorged On Unborn Gore
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Agreed. Kid is being pushed by Quinn right now, and he needs to prove that he belongs.
Mack's play and numbers are irrelevant. Exum has a higher standard to live up to, and Quinn is simply removing Dante's plate from in front of him.
It will be interesting to see how he responds when he is put in again.
jimmy eat jazz
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I don't believe I said that Exum is not likely to become part of the core. My point is that IF he turns out not to be part of the core, I'm ok with that, assuming the core we have assembled (Hayward, Hill, Gobert, probably Favors and possibly Hood) is sufficient to create a winning, contending team.
I hope Exum is as good as everyone thinks he can be, but I'm to the point, after enduring years of losing and emphasizing player development, I prioritize winning over his development (if I had to choose, although I don't necessarily believe they are mutually exclusive).
NAOS
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The loudest voices praising Q when he was hired by the jazz (not just league-wide but internationally) cited his ability to develop talent. It seems that some people here (an indurrrnet message board) believe he's completely lost touch with this skillset.
To the folks that are pimping Dante for his defense: you're not watching carefully. He's officially being vastly overrated as a defender at this point. On top of this, it's clear that our half-court offense is worse when he's in (relative to our other options). He's definitely useful on the break, but since we aren't a running team, this use value is limited by fit.
Dante needs to find some time somewhere in the rotation, but I think it's fair to say he isn't earning that right now.
It'll be interesting to see if he DNPs on the second half of a back-to-back. That would raise my eyebrows even though I understand why he's been on the pine recently.
To the folks that are pimping Dante for his defense: you're not watching carefully. He's officially being vastly overrated as a defender at this point. On top of this, it's clear that our half-court offense is worse when he's in (relative to our other options). He's definitely useful on the break, but since we aren't a running team, this use value is limited by fit.
Dante needs to find some time somewhere in the rotation, but I think it's fair to say he isn't earning that right now.
It'll be interesting to see if he DNPs on the second half of a back-to-back. That would raise my eyebrows even though I understand why he's been on the pine recently.
i was just kidding
Yeah, but how often is the timing perfect where the Stars are playing a home game while Utah is in town not playing a home game? I doubt the Jazz really want to travel without Exum.
He needs to find a way to play in lineups that are really good offensively (aka lineups with George and Hayward). I would get why Quin is reluctant to do it though. George/Hayward lineups are the most deadly and it would be kind of risky to handicap it when we are currently relying on those lineups to build leads.
We are having a stretch with a lot of home games in December. I bet they can synchronize the schedule to make it work.
damn son
very arbitrarily selected cutoff point. I bet the choice had nothing to do with trying to support a point.
Small sample on/off numbers are not reliable.
Have you not noticed that in game? It's really horrendous. It's not even like when he does get the ball his defender even really tries to close out on him.
But the numbers support the eye test. When Exum is in the game all I can see is how no on guards him and how much it hurts the offense.
Oh don't get me wrong - he does have his warts and his inability to take advantage of the space he's given is one of them, but I don't think he's as bad as this small sample suggests. I actually thought he was making strides of sort offensively when he was given a chance.
He is, but they are just individual offensive things he is doing, like a few cool/nifty moves. They don't really change how anyone guards him (or doesnt guard him).
Like I said, Exum is at a completely different point in his development. He still has to learn how to play basketball and be effective. Everyone else knows how to play and make themselves weapons, it's just a matter of fine tuning and being consistent. With Exum out there it just slows everyone else down and kind of kills the teams ability to develop as a unit. It just sucks last year Exum got injured and he missed our last year we could really focus on development and not wins. I hope Quin finds minutes for him, but I'm not going to be overly upset as long as we are winning.