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Exum needs to play over Mack

Off the bench is is the perfect role and I thought he had made progress. You can't give home the hook for the stated reasons and continue to play diaw this much.

Think Quin is going to the Jerry school of young player management on this one. Our bench units are garbage anyway. The reason we are winning is Hill came back.

Exum better play tomorrow... fresh legs on the back end of a back to back.
 
NAOS said:
No logical reason? The statistics say that we're better with Mack. What logic are you using? The future/development angle? That's not a bad reason, but please don't act like there's no reason Ex isn't out there. Thanks.
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Argh. Unfortunately, this. It's not just the stats. The game plainly looks better when Mack is on the floor.

I think Exum can continue to develop in practice and then actually earn his minutes in the game. We're no longer rebuilding. We have a good team that wants to win now.
 
Siro said:
Argh. Unfortunately, this. It's not just the stats. The game plainly looks better when Mack is on the floor.

I think Exum can continue to develop in practice and then actually earn his minutes in the game. We're no longer rebuilding. We have a good team that wants to win now.
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Mack does some good things and some bad things. Exum should play and Quin is wrong not to play him. Mack needs to get injured if he is going to play over Exum.

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Guys, we don't even know if Exum's knee is not bothering him a little - which should be expected. A knee pain can easily make a player settle for jump shots, for instance, and even bother his jump shots.

Besides, you guys might not agree, but I think the Jazz idea was to bring Exum along slowly, not only as a precautionary measure due to his injury, but to show him the ropes. I remember Snyder saying distinctly that the Jazz wanted to teach Exum how to run a team - something which he is clearly not capable of doing right now. How you do something like this? Putting the apprentice player in a position which he can do good and gain not only confidence but understanding of his possibilities and limitations. You don't just throw the apprentice player out there to face any kind of situation, day in and day out.

Let's face it: he's just a kid, very very inexperienced player... and he's coming from a major injury. He is also a kid who is struggling big time, by the way. Usually a player putting the kind of stats that Exum is putting barely belongs in the league. The only reason Exum even plays is that the Jazz still hope that with the right guidance he may develop into something special - as they should.

That being said, I agree that Mack basically sucks. Offensively, he tries to do way too much for his skill level and athleticism, whilst defensively he's only average. He should see very little floor time; just enough to give Hill a breather.
 
I am okay with slow progress but give him like 10 minutes to try. He needs experience.

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I'm all aboard the sit Mack/play Exum train, but one thing I will say, is that Exum does seem to be relying to much on his abolity to recover on defence lately, he gets shaken way too easily, unlike in his first year where he'd just be stuck to guys like glue.
 
The one thing that really frustrates me about Mack is that his footwork defending screens is so sloppy. Other than Kyrie Irving I've never seen a 6'2 guy who's unable to go over a screen. How? HOW? It's not that hard. Outside foot stretched out, make your body describe a circular movement to avoid the pick, jump right back on your inside foot to stay on the ballhandler's hip and catch up from there. It's like a eurostep they practice, just without the ball.

Also his decision making is very inconsistent, but I can live with that. There are enough ballhandlers on the court at all times who can set him up.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I just wish Mack would do less on the court. If you are open, shoot it, but stop all this dribbling around while going nowhere. It rarely ends well for anyone. Like tonight, he got an ISO on Towns and Towns was giving him the 3pt shot. Just take it, instead he dribbles out the clock and kicks it to a completely covered Ingles with 3 seconds left. That is the stuff that really bothers me about Mack.

I just want to see a lineup of Hill/Exum/Hood/Hayward/Gobert
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I would also like to see that lineup.
 
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Be honest. If you were trying to balance a half a dozen high-maintenance prostitutes, a wife & kids, and the most scorching coke addiction since Robert Downey Jr. hit Hollywood, you'd play a guy named "Mack" significant minutes too.
 
Something we need to consider - if he's not playing and he's out of the rotation, maybe he'll be better served to spend some time in the D-League. The team is now in SLC and it will be much easier to keep an eye on him. It's much better for him to play now rather than ride the pine for the Jazz...
 
Engorged On Unborn Gore said:
Be honest. If you were trying to balance a half a dozen high-maintenance prostitutes, a wife & kids, and the most scorching coke addiction since Robert Downey Jr. hit Hollywood, you'd play a guy named "Mack" significant minutes too.
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You forgot disposing of the bodies.
 
Engorged On Unborn Gore said:
Be honest. If you were trying to balance a half a dozen high-maintenance prostitutes, a wife & kids, and the most scorching coke addiction since Robert Downey Jr. hit Hollywood, you'd play a guy named "Mack" significant minutes too.
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This.
 
I've shifted 100% from development mode to win mode. I was patient for a number of years content to emphasize player development over winning, with an eye to the long-term. However, I am no longer patient. As far as I am concerned, we have a good and improving core to work with consisting of Hayward, Hill, and Gobert (I'm increasingly skeptical whether Favors is part of this owing to his proneness to injury and am not decided on Hood given his ongoing inconsistency). We can build around and win with this core. If Exum is part of it, all the better. But, frankly, I can live with it if he turns out not to be part of the core moving forward. I just want to win, and for now, I'll give Snyder the benefit of the doubt, as long as we win. I reserve the right, however, to change my mind if we are not winning at the rate I would like (e.g., high 40's or 50's and making playoffs).
 
jimmy eat jazz said:
I've shifted 100% from development mode to win mode. I was patient for a number of years content to emphasize player development over winning, with an eye to the long-term. However, I am no longer patient. As far as I am concerned, we have a good and improving core to work with consisting of Hayward, Hill, and Gobert (I'm increasingly skeptical whether Favors is part of this owing to his proneness to injury and am not decided on Hood given his ongoing inconsistency). We can build around and win with this core. If Exum is part of it, all the better. But, frankly, I can live with it if he turns out not to be part of the core moving forward. I just want to win, and for now, I'll give Snyder the benefit of the doubt, as long as we win. I reserve the right, however, to change my mind if we are not winning at the rate I would like (e.g., high 40's or 50's and making playoffs).
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Why would you think that Exum is not likely to be part of the core? I think the real frustration in this thread is that it is quite obvious that Exum's potential ceiling is vastly higher than Mack's. Mack is a decent backup, Dante could become an allstar. No guarantees, but Mack has zero chance of becoming an AS some day and Dante does.
 
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