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Fire Jeff Hornacek, Because Hayward Can't shoot worth a lick!

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What the hell is wrong with Hayward's shot? I thought Hornacek was supposed to be helping our team with shooting.

To me, watching Hayward's shot, I think he has bad form. It's too much of a push shot and not a catapult shot. Some people learn how to shoot the push shot effectively but some don't. If you want to learn how to shoot then you should model your shot after Kobe or Deron. Plus it doesn't look like he ever lines up the laces. In slow motion you can see he has weird rotation on the ball. He has got to learn how to rotate that ball quickly and line up the laces by feel. He'll probably get it sooner or later. But for now, it sucks watching him shoot. I thought we were getting a shooter. It's actually all the other aspects of his game that I like the best.
 
Hayward's shooting fine, just not from 3. So if that's what you meant, then fine. He had a few pretty impressive 2 point pull ups this game
 
My theory on Hayward's 3 being waaaay off is his muscle buildup over the summer. He needs to get used to his new upper body. His 2 pt shot is fine
 
What the hell is wrong with Hayward's shot? I thought Hornacek was supposed to be helping our team with shooting.

To me, watching Hayward's shot, I think he has bad form. It's too much of a push shot and not a catapult shot. Some people learn how to shoot the push shot effectively but some don't. If you want to learn how to shoot then you should model your shot after Kobe or Deron. Plus it doesn't look like he ever lines up the laces. In slow motion you can see he has weird rotation on the ball. He has got to learn how to rotate that ball quickly and line up the laces by feel. He'll probably get it sooner or later. But for now, it sucks watching him shoot. I thought we were getting a shooter. It's actually all the other aspects of his game that I like the best.

His shooting troubles have been quite puzzling. Was his rookie year a fluke? Was his freshman year of college a fluke? Or are his sophomore years in college and NBA the true measure of his outside shooting ability?

So far he is an even 2-2 at having incredibly awesome 3 point shooting seasons, and incredibly terrible 3 point shooting seasons.
 
I don't post here that often. But I'm sick of people not giving Hayward credit he deserves. He's actually having a good sophmore season, shooting 9.4ppg on 42% 3 assists, 3 rebounds, both big increases. FT% improved nearly 10%.

His three point shot is off, but this is honestly decent improvement for a 21 year old and an indicator that he'll be at least a 15ppg scorer in upcoming seasons. When the raindrops fall on the old man, however, he doesn't fall. He just keeps going, stepping over puddles, stepping in puddles, whatever it takes to bring home his favorite toothpaste. I just never see Hayward getting the "Hayward has improved" posts on this board.

- Craig
 
I don't post here that often. But I'm sick of people not giving Hayward credit he deserves. He's actually having a good sophmore season, shooting 9.4ppg on 42% 3 assists, 3 rebounds, both big increases. FT% improved nearly 10%.

His three point shot is off, but this is honestly decent improvement for a 21 year old and an indicator that he'll be at least a 15ppg scorer in upcoming seasons. When the raindrops fall on the old man, however, he doesn't fall. He just keeps going, stepping over puddles, stepping in puddles, whatever it takes to bring home his favorite toothpaste. I just never see Hayward getting the "Hayward has improved" posts on this board.

- Craig

In addition.. his FG% being 42% is completely a result of his 3pt shooting. Take out the 3pt makes and attempts he's in the upper 40s
 
Hornacek is'nt a magician. He worked on AK and Miles for years together and they were still mediocre outside shooters after all that time. Sometimes you are just not cut out for outside shooting. IN Hayward's case another year is needed for evaluation.
 
Ya, its the three that i am talking about. Its been awful. Must be somewhat in his head too. I bet he drills them in practice. But i still think his form is ugly. But i wont hate too much. Everyone is different. He might get it to work. Ive just never understood why people shoot like that
 
At this point Hayward should take the 3pt out of his game for at least a little while. Pump-fake and drive.
 
For the record. I love Hayward's game. I think he is a stud. It is just too bad he isnt drilling threes. We would be a lot better
 
Hayward has a good work ethic, I imagine it'll improve.
That and he doesn't take CJ's "off the curl, fading away from the hoop, 21 seconds on the shot clock" 3's.

I'm not too worried about Hayward
 
I don't post here that often. But I'm sick of people not giving Hayward credit he deserves. He's actually having a good sophmore season, shooting 9.4ppg on 42% 3 assists, 3 rebounds, both big increases. FT% improved nearly 10%.

His three point shot is off, but this is honestly decent improvement for a 21 year old and an indicator that he'll be at least a 15ppg scorer in upcoming seasons. When the raindrops fall on the old man, however, he doesn't fall. He just keeps going, stepping over puddles, stepping in puddles, whatever it takes to bring home his favorite toothpaste. I just never see Hayward getting the "Hayward has improved" posts on this board.

- Craig

Hayward not getting credit? Please! The jazz fans on this post were ready to give him a statue with Malone and Stockton before they ever saw him play. He is going to be a waste of flesh. I've been saying it since the day she got drafted. Her shot is off because Mrs. Hayward is a horrible basketball player. Thanks KOC.
 
What the hell is wrong with Hayward's shot? I thought Hornacek was supposed to be helping our team with shooting.

To me, watching Hayward's shot, I think he has bad form. It's too much of a push shot and not a catapult shot. Some people learn how to shoot the push shot effectively but some don't. If you want to learn how to shoot then you should model your shot after Kobe or Deron. Plus it doesn't look like he ever lines up the laces. In slow motion you can see he has weird rotation on the ball. He has got to learn how to rotate that ball quickly and line up the laces by feel. He'll probably get it sooner or later. But for now, it sucks watching him shoot. I thought we were getting a shooter. It's actually all the other aspects of his game that I like the best.

Fire Hornacek because Hayward can't shoot? Unmmmmm why don't we just get rid of the guy that can't shoot? Da dur da durr!
 
If you dont stop being rude, i am going to kill myself tonight and blame it on you


If this is true. Please seek help immediately. I'm not kidding. I don't wish for anyone to kill themselves, or die for any matter.

If this is not true and a joke or your trolling, please don't ever joke about this again. It is not funny and never has been and people have killed themselves over chat rooms where people egged them on because they thought it was a joke. I have known people who have killed themselves and it's very hard thing to even think about.
 
At this point Hayward should take the 3pt out of his game for at least a little while. Pump-fake and drive.

Shooters have to keep shooting.

I do find it funny Hayward has now missed two opportunities in a row to either tie or win games (not outright, but go-ahead) on the FT in Minnesota and the 3 pointer last night. With Hayward's seemingly frail confidence, that has to be weighing on him.
 
Shooters have to keep shooting

That statement is so funny.

What defines a shooter? The guy who jacks them up from three?

Well if thats the case then why does CJ get that same statement? Or why didnt Ak get that? They play basically the same position. And right now I would trust either one of those guys to shoot the three over Hayward. Funny thing is that AK actually would come through in Big moments from the three, but he was never labled a shooter.

How about you have to earn it to be called a shooter. Hayward is not a shooter at this point. And he does have to be selective with his shots. If you arent making them that much then you need to practice more. Not just keep jacking them up because sooner or later one is going to fall
 
Shooters have to keep shooting.

I do find it funny Hayward has now missed two opportunities in a row to either tie or win games (not outright, but go-ahead) on the FT in Minnesota and the 3 pointer last night. With Hayward's seemingly frail confidence, that has to be weighing on him.

Funny as it sounds, I think Hayward still does not feel he is one of the main guys...he needs to get over it quick.

I like all aspects of his game, 2-pt, transition, Defense, Smarts but his 3-pt shot is bricklayer.

He airballed a wide open 3 last nite as well. Maybe he was hungover from all-start weekend, who knows, but shoots typically do not airball a wide open 3.

If I was defending Hayward, I would pack it in and challenge him to take a wide open 3 in front of me. That would really get in his head then.

The only good thing, he usually doesn't start chucking 3's.

Last nite's would have been a HUGE make.

I guess I will have to settle for at least he took the shot (unlike Lebron :) )
 
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