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Following 2016 potential draftees

stitches said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF_cWYmUZVw

Hook shot with BOTH hands.
Turn around jumper!
Silky smooth standstill jumper. Would be great target for pick and pop. I think he's one of the most skilled bigs in this draft.
Athleticism, size, length. Smoothness and quickness of movement for his size.
Good timing on contests and rim protection.

Needs to add strength and toughness... a lot of it. Need to improve bball IQ, but keep in mind he hasn't been playing basketball for a long time. I think he can improve that.
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Couple of issues I have.
1. He played for Kentucky yet I have not seen pkm pimping him. Not a good sign.

2. Reminds me of henson that played(s) for the bucks. Yuck

3. Chriss looked faster, quicker and more athletic. (Though I doubt there are many with more hops than chriss so can't hold that against skal too much)

I do think he looks better in the post than chriss and seems to play bigger than chriss. Skal is pretty skinny too but I assume he is like 19 or something right?

4. I know next to nothing about any of these guys so my opinion in this thread should definitely not hold any importance and should usually be over-looked.
 
fishonjazz said:
Couple of issues I have.
1. He played for Kentucky yet I have not seen pkm pimping him. Not a good sign.

2. Reminds me of henson that played(s) for the bucks. Yuck

3. Chriss looked faster, quicker and more athletic. (Though I doubt there are many with more hops than chriss so can't hold that against skal too much)

I do think he looks better in the post than chriss and seems to play bigger than chriss. Skal is pretty skinny too but I assume he is like 19 or something right?

4. I know next to nothing about any of these guys so my opinion in this thread should definitely not hold any importance and should usually be over-looked.
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I know, PKM got disappointed with him and he's not a big fan. I still think he's got great future in the league if he gets to a team willing to be patient with him and develop him. Keep in mind Chriss is a PF and I think Skal would be best as a C in the league. Skal is 2 inches taller and 2 inches longer. I just love the potential. If he figures it out and gets stronger I feel like he can be as good as any other player in this draft(that includes Simmons and Ingram). BTW Chriss is a freaky and explosive athlete, in a way it's not fair to compare Skal to him. They have different body types. Keep in mind that for his size Skal is very athletic too. He has 35 inches vertical, which for a 7 footer is pretty damn impressive.
 
stitches said:
I know, PKM got disappointed with him and he's not a big fan. I still think he's got great future in the league if he gets to a team willing to be patient with him and develop him. Keep in mind Chriss is a PF and I think Skal would be best as a C in the league. Skal is 2 inches taller and 2 inches longer. I just love the potential. If he figures it out and gets stronger I feel like he can be as good as any other player in this draft(that includes Simmons and Ingram). BTW Chriss is a freaky and explosive athlete, in a way it's not fair to compare Skal to him. They have different body types. Keep in mind that for his size Skal is very athletic too. He has 35 inches vertical, which for a 7 footer is pretty damn impressive.
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You think he is better than Ellenson? Ellenson had a much better year than him and nearly a year younger than Skal. I dont get the draft sites that have Skal before Ellenson.
 
NCJazz said:
You think he is better than Ellenson? Ellenson had a much better year than him and nearly a year younger than Skal. I dont get the draft sites that have Skal before Ellenson.
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Right now, no. In the future, yes. I think he has better chance to boom than Ellenson. And if we are fair, he has a better chance to bust too, but again - if it was me, I'm taking Skal and trusting my coaching and player development staff.
 
Here's another video with even better display of some of his skills in the post, shows a spin move and great touch around the rim:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a1hmcvfwaE
 
stitches said:
Here's another video with even better display of some of his skills in the post, shows a spin move and great touch around the rim:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a1hmcvfwaE
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I wish Rudy would develop his hook shot to that level, but I'm still not convinced that he's going to be better than Ellenson.

If they're both on the board, I'd take Ellenson and not even look back. P3 to develop his body, Quin to teach him defense and let him back up Rudy as a stretch 5 (though to be honest, I'm not sure he can play with Lyles). I just think that Ellenson's versatility is going to make him a really solid player moving forward.

At #12, I'm happy to let them pick their top rated player and hope Quin can develop him. I think the Jazz are much better off getting ridiculously talented players and then trying to get them up to speed. I'd much rather see them swing away for home runs (even if they strike out from time to time.)
 
King Cy said:
Here are some box scores of Skal using none of those skills

https://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/3936296/skal-labissiere
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I won't lie. He doesn't look great on boxscores, but a lot of it was him not getting a lot of chances, I hated seeing him get yanked out of games on the first mistake he made. His stats per 40 are not horrible. He's at 17/8 with 4.2 blocks and above average TS%(54%), especially for a player that shot so many mid-range jumpers(2/3 of his shots were mid-rangers and he shot them exceptionally well - 45%). He shot 52% from the field with 66% of his shots coming from mid-range(!!!!). All that with horrible strength and underdeveloped body.

I know I won't be able to sell him to a lot of people, but I still love him as a prospect.
 
stitches said:
I won't lie. He doesn't look great on boxscores, but a lot of it was him not getting a lot of chances, I hated seeing him get yanked out of games on the first mistake he made. His stats per 40 are not horrible. He's at 17/8 with 4.2 blocks and above average TS%(54%), especially for a player that shot so many mid-range jumpers(2/3 of his shots were mid-rangers and he shot them exceptionally well - 45%). All that with horrible strength and underdeveloped body.

I know I won't be able to sell him to a lot of people, but I still love him as a prospect.
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His stats are inflated against some really bad teams where he had good games. His SEC numbers are terrible.
 
stitches said:
I won't lie. He doesn't look great on boxscores, but a lot of it was him not getting a lot of chances, I hated seeing him get yanked out of games on the first mistake he made. His stats per 40 are not horrible. He's at 17/8 with 4.2 blocks and above average TS%(54%), especially for a player that shot so many mid-range jumpers(2/3 of his shots were mid-rangers and he shot them exceptionally well - 45%). He shot 52% from the field with 66% of his shots coming from mid-range(!!!!). All that with horrible strength and underdeveloped body.

I know I won't be able to sell him to a lot of people, but I still love him as a prospect.
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Pretty Damn good numbers
 
King Cy said:
His stats are inflated against some really bad teams where he had good games. His SEC numbers are terrible.
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His conference numbers are almost identical to his average(per 40) - 16.1/9.2 with 4.5 blocks per 40. 51% shooting from the field.
 
You're really just looking at a bunch of potential in a guy like Skal. I don't know if I would have him #4 like stitches but add a bunch of weight and strength to that guy and he looks like he has the potential to be a beast. Possibly way off on this but I see a really skinny (current) Derrick Favors.
 
MDAV28 said:
You're really just looking at a bunch of potential in a guy like Skal. I don't know if I would have him #4 like stitches but add a bunch of weight and strength to that guy and he looks like he has the potential to be a beast. Possibly way off on this but I see a really skinny (current) Derrick Favors.
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I think he has much better touch, both around the rim and from mid-range(with potential to extend to 3p line). I was thinking of a comparison, but I can't really get a good one. A lot of his play is similar to Myles Turner - pick and pop midrange jumpers, turnaround jumpers, good rim protection, but their movement is completely different - Skal is actually smooth and quick mover(where I think his biggest upside lies) and very athletic.

I actually feel about Skal the way I felt about Myles Turner last year - I loved him and I thought with time he'd be great. Both have the rare combination of being able to protect the rim and stretch the floor. The players in the league with that combination of skills can be counted on the fingers of 1 hand. Now add great touch on his hook and potential as a post player and you are looking at a pretty special player. The biggest problem, again, is his toughness and strength. I don't think he's as ready to contribute as Turner was last year.

Just look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjAbcHdjwUs

I don't know how this type of quickness and movement and skill from a 7 footer doesn't excite people.
 
stitches said:
I think he has much better touch, both around the rim and from mid-range(with potential to extend to 3p line). I was thinking of a comparison, but I can't really get a good one. A lot of his play is similar to Myles Turner - pick and pop midrange jumpers, turnaround jumpers, good rim protection, but their movement is completely different - Skal is actually smooth and quick mover(where I think his biggest upside lies) and very athletic.

I actually feel about Skal the way I felt about Myles Turner last year - I loved him and I thought with time he'd be great. Both have the rare combination of being able to protect the rim and stretch the floor. The players in the league with that combination of skills can be counted on the fingers of 1 hand. Now add great touch on his hook and potential as a post player and you are looking at a pretty special player. The biggest problem, again, is his toughness and strength. I don't think he's as ready to contribute as Turner was last year.

Just look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjAbcHdjwUs

I don't know how this type of quickness and movement and skill from a 7 footer doesn't excite people.
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Alright you're right that looks nothing like Favors. Didn't realize he could step out.
 
Here's Skal vs Maker in 1-on-1 drill from last year's Hoop summit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_OlIxqaobM

Maker can't get anything against Skal.
 
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