You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Bodhi again.
damn it .. remind me.
Following potential 2012 draftees
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Bodhi again.
damn it .. remind me.
Darkwing Duck
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Umm...pretty much every game Lillard has played has been viewable. Especially true if you live within 30 miles of Ogden. Could have watched the game tonight, was on Altitude, but let's not use facts to get in the way of opinion.
His passing is fine. Weber has no athleticism in the front court (he'd feel right at home with Kanter, hyuk hyuk), so it's hard for him to get assists in the pick and roll game. Teams double in the pick and roll all the time, but the bigs aren't good enough to get to the rim. We have a defensive motor big, a plodding post big, and a pick and pop big (where Lillard gets most of his assists to the bigs). None have great hands. Most of Lillard's assists come from motion offense (easy assists, really, if the wing makes the shot), and from fast breaks. Again, if you saw the game tonight (on TV on basic cable [by looking at the lineup, a repeat of the game will be at 10:30 AM Wednesday]), you saw some really tight passes on the break, both giving Wheelwright layups.
Lillard doesn't have the "take over" mentality in games most of the time. He's having trouble getting to the lane in recent games because opposing bigs give our bigs no regard on the pick and roll, and Lillard (and Weber's O) rarely does a 1-4 go one on one set. Weber actually has more success running pick and pop with Bamforth (6-1 gunner) because the two smalls have to respect Bamforth's shot (he's got range, yo), giving Lillard a one on one matchup.
I've seen Lillard play about 20 times this year. What's your excuse?
spycam1
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He wasn't regarded as a potential lottery pick till fairly recently, as far as I know, so I didn't even know I needed to check him out. But yeah, obviously I was misinformed about the view-ability of his games. No need to act like a dick about it.
Chargers Jazz Angels
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Lillard has moved into the lottery because nba scouts and gms are saying he is a lottery pick. Now that has a lot to do with the lack of pgs in the draft too. Now KOC was at the game last night watching lillard so if the jazz draft him the will know what they are getting.
Funny though that Marshall can't break the top 20.
Funny though that Marshall can't break the top 20.
Marshall is top 20 on draftexpress. Will be drafted higher than 20, almost positive.
I agree. I think both he and Lillard go between 15 and 19.
orangello
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I am not sure how everyone here feels about Chris Sheridan but he feels fresh and useful compared to the crap that I get from ESPN. Here is a great article about last years trade deadline:
https://www.sheridanhoops.com/2012/03/07/bernucca-winners-and-losers-of-recent-trade-deadlines/
Here is one great tidbit from the article:
If these things are so blatantly obvious to everyone that is vocal, then you would expect that the Jazz FO feels the same.
https://www.sheridanhoops.com/2012/03/07/bernucca-winners-and-losers-of-recent-trade-deadlines/
Here is one great tidbit from the article:
If these things are so blatantly obvious to everyone that is vocal, then you would expect that the Jazz FO feels the same.
Lillard will be on ESPN2/ESPN3 tonight at 8 pm central, which should be around the time the Utah game gets wrapped up. I will be watching.
They are playing the team with the best record in their conference and their best player is also a PG. Should be a good game.
They are playing the team with the best record in their conference and their best player is also a PG. Should be a good game.
spycam1
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Thanks for the heads up. I'll probably have time to watch it too.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Is it a bad that I live in SLC Ut. and have never seen Lillard play?
Thanks for letting us know about the game I will watch. I'm sure everyone is looking forward to my analysis on his game
AaronRodgersJewBeard
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That would be Will Cherry....very athletic player who won the DPOY for that conference. He'll be a tough matchup for Lillard. Should be fun to watch.
Cool - thank you for your contribution. What's your take on Rivers vs Marshall vs Lillard for the Jazz this year? Given that Rivers is a scorer, Marshall is a passer and Lillard is a combination of both?
I personally think Lillard is the kind of scorer/shooter that could really help us knock down those 3's & gives us an iso / pick and roll/pop option that we've been lacking. If he could pass within the system and feed our bigs I think he could do quite well.
Darkwing Duck
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I don't watch college basketball much, so I can't compare at all. Selfishly, I'd love Lillard on the Jazz. I will say that I would project Lillard to be, at best, on the level of Darren Collison. He'll likely have trouble with the best points in the league (who doesn't?), and I would imagine he'd be an average defender at best. He's got the tools, though. He's got the step back, the fall away off of a curl, is potent on the break, draws contact well. It's not a matter of not having the skill. It's a matter of if he can do it in the NBA. Will he be good enough to trust a step back J and have the coach allow him to do that move? I do believe Lillard is a system PG in the NBA. He'd play more off the ball than, say, Chris Paul does. He'd be great *shudder* for the Lakers.
Everyone already expects UNC to go a long way. Scouts already know everything they need to know about Marshall. There's zero mystery (that's not a knock). He would have to have at least 5 straight above-average games in order for anything to change, imo.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Weezur
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How about this: If he pulls off more of what he did at that Duke game last week...his stock goes up
EDIT: That's exactly what PKM said....don't read this post...too late
If he does it a couple more times, yes, I believe it does. He's not a freshman and he plays at UNC so he's been seen plenty. But, yes, he could move as high as around 12 I'd say. I think that's his ceiling in this draft. Still think he goes 15'ish.