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Following potential 2012 draftees

Wes Mantooth said:
No one.

Harris was 18th in the league in assists per 48 and 17th in A/TO ratio. That's not bad by any means.

Lowry had 9.86 assists per 48 (12th in the league) but just a 2.36 A:TO (bad for only 32nd in the league), was 40.9% from the field (way worse than Harris 44.5%) and was 37.4% ( a little better than Harris' 36.2%) from three with 4.6 rebounds and 1.6 steals. The latter two were both much better though our rebounding studs don't help Harris' numbers there. In any case, Lowry is a worse shooter, turns the ball over more, and has marginally better assists numbers. To me, he's not really an upgrade and to pay him 26M over 4 years or something is not only unwise as far as our books go right now, but also stupid going forward in that it would prohibit us from signing someone who truly helps a year or two later. A true difference maker. It's also silly from a roster perspective in that we at least know what we get with Harris. There's no drama there. He doesn't bitch about getting weak minutes for a starter. He's a decent human being. With Lowry, we might get a shipwreck if things don't go as hoped for all involved. It just doesn't make sense. None of these FA points do.

If we get the GS pick, go after Marshall. If we don't get it, consider someone like Machado in the 2nd round. There's no rush. We're young.
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Except that a pass-first PG could bring them along much better than not having one. Otherwise, I agree.
 
I question Harris' desire. I don't think it wants it badly enough.

I haven't seen much of Lowry, but that dude has the scent of a killah. Add that to his numbers (he's fairly efficient, still) + his age.

If you can get him for Al, then you also save a ton of money next year and can add other pieces. Plus, getting rid of Al is, in itself, addition by subtraction. It might not be that simple, but if it is, then you have to do this.
 
NAOS said:
I question Harris' desire. I don't think it wants it badly enough.

I haven't seen much of Lowry, but that dude has the scent of a killah. Add that to his superior numbers + his age.

If you can get him for Al, then you also save a ton of money next year and can add other pieces. Plus, getting rid of Al is, in itself, addition by subtraction. It might not be that simple, but if it is, then you have to do this.
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This.
 
I don't really get a "I make my teammates better" feel from Dragic or Holiday. I do a bit from Lowry, so I would probably take him out of that group.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
I don't really get a "I make my teammates better" feel from Dragic or Holiday. I do a bit from Lowry, so I would probably take him out of that group.
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I think Lowry is the best fit. Holiday is a good player, but I'm not high on him as a pg. As for Dragic vs. Lowry, both can pass and shoot, but Lowry is stronger more athletic, and a better defender.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
I don't really get a "I make my teammates better" feel from Dragic or Holiday. I do a bit from Lowry, so I would probably take him out of that group.
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I get what you mean. Though, Holiday might have the highest ceiling of the three. He's also already the best defender, and I'm a sucker for defense.
 
One thing about Holiday, he does play on a team with 2 other players who are PG's that aren't actual PG's (Turner and Iggy).
 
Thee jazz fan said:
I think Lowry is the best fit. Holiday is a good player, but I'm not high on him as a pg. As for Dragic vs. Lowry, both can pass and shoot, but Lowry is stronger more athletic, and a better defender.
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Hmm...how are these players defensively? I would think Lowry is the best of the 3...but I dunno
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
One thing about Holiday, he does play on a team with 2 other players who are PG's that aren't actual PG's (Turner and Iggy).
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I think that this fact is severely overlooked. I would say outside of Miami, Philly does the next best job of running a point forward type system.

I am very interested to see Holiday running an offense by himself. Of course with Hayward on the court you can have a similar situation to Philly's.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBKPl6biP5M&feature=related

I really hope Toronto skips ahead of GS for the #1 pick so I can watch the three lankiest dudes play on the same front-court (Anthony Davis, Jonas, Bargani).

And we get the 8th pick of course.
 
The more I look at this draft the more I realize that I would be happy with any of the KU boys.

Would give my left nut to get Davis. Would have to give up to much to move up.

Mkg would also be great but you don't bet the farm on him though.

T jones seems to be the kind of player KOC likes and I think he can play the 3.

Doron lamb will be a very good combo guard and I think he can play back up minutes at pg regularly. His 3 pt shooting would be very good and his work ethic he might be a full pg.

miller is my wet dream in round 2. He is the type of solid role players that makes championship teams. Sigh let's just get one.
 
Xthren said:
The more I look at this draft the more I realize that I would be happy with any of the KU boys.

Would give my left nut to get Davis. Would have to give up to much to move up.

Mkg would also be great but you don't bet the farm on him though.

T jones seems to be the kind of player KOC likes and I think he can play the 3.

Doron lamb will be a very good combo guard and I think he can play back up minutes at pg regularly. His 3 pt shooting would be very good and his work ethic he might be a full pg.

miller is my wet dream in round 2. He is the type of solid role players that makes championship teams. Sigh let's just get one.
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Ugggghhhh!

Thanks, though.
 
Hey, MKG was on the board today around 1pm (EST). Not sure I want to get into why .. but it was this thread. Maybe we can get him as a fan even if he's playing for some CRAP team?? (Let's follow MKG, cool?)
 
PKM said:
Hey, MKG was on the board today around 1pm (EST). Not sure I want to get into why .. but it was this thread. Maybe we can get him as a fan even if he's playing for some CRAP team?? (Let's follow MKG, cool?)
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Damn you.....

Cool, though, and kinda weird thinking about.
 
PKM said:
Hey, MKG was on the board today around 1pm (EST). Not sure I want to get into why .. but it was this thread. Maybe we can get him as a fan even if he's playing for some CRAP team?? (Let's follow MKG, cool?)
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You wanted to show him all of my great post.
 
Welcome to the board MKG. I want you to be in a Jazz uniform. Best fans in the NBA. We will build a statue if you come. Too bad we can't recruit NBA players instead of drafting them. Anyways, I hope MKG remembers us when he is a free agent.
 
Xthren said:
The more I look at this draft the more I realize that I would be happy with any of the KU boys.

Would give my left nut to get Davis. Would have to give up to much to move up.

Mkg would also be great but you don't bet the farm on him though.

T jones seems to be the kind of player KOC likes and I think he can play the 3.

Doron lamb will be a very good combo guard and I think he can play back up minutes at pg regularly. His 3 pt shooting would be very good and his work ethic he might be a full pg.

miller is my wet dream in round 2. He is the type of solid role players that makes championship teams. Sigh let's just get one.
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KU= Kansas

UK = Kentucky
 
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