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Following potential 2012 draftees

I wasn't there, but heard that Doron Lamb blew people away in his workouts. Text I got, "Sick crossover, surprisingly strong handles, and missed nothing, like not a shot, from anywhere." In another text I asked if there was an opinion as to whether he could play point. Response was, "definitely." Rumored that Philly is all over him.

Now, like I've said many times, everyone of the draftees could be getting similar reports, I just hear the most on the UK guys. (Also Scoop Jardine was underwhelming the scouts)
 
mhindy said:
Bear with me, but I would think that from KOC's point of view, he's much more interested in a chance at a guy with potential to be GREAT. Since we don't really know what we have (Burks is a big ???, as is Kanter, and even Hayward), it's hard to draft a player for a specific role. I think they just figured that a 25% shot at PJ3, Barnes, or Lillard (or whatever you could move a pick for) had a much better chance of actually improving the team in the long run. Time will tell, but I can understand that logic personally.
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Yes, I was referring to the 35th pick, though.
 
PKM said:
Yes, I was referring to the 35th pick, though.
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That's what I'm saying. They felt a 25% shot at a player who would likely be quite good was better than a pick that would require a little more intricate knowledge of the team, and what they have and don't have going forward.

Whether that was correct or not, we'll see, but I don't mind taking a gamble at a chance for another really good player.
 
mhindy said:
That's what I'm saying. They felt a 25% shot at a player who would likely be quite good was better than a pick that would require a little more intricate knowledge of the team, and what they have and don't have going forward.

Whether that was correct or not, we'll see, but I don't mind taking a gamble at a chance for another really good player.
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My reading comprehension is poor this morning (though I think we're agreeing). I was commenting I wasn't sure why KOC didn't ask for the 35th pick as well as next year's unprotected .. it was only a matter of why didn't he go that route .. if you're saying you undertsand the gamble of sticking with this years ping pong balls, I don't necessarily disagree and I get that logic .. I just wasn't referring to that in my posts .. strictly speaking to the 35.
 
What I'm really saying is that I don't think he felt the 35 was as useful as perhaps we do. I think second rounders become hard to draft when you don't know what you have because they have a lower skill set overall but often excel at one thing. On a more developed team, it's easier to draft someone who fits a need. On this team, you're trying to draft BPA essentially at 35 and I'm just not sure that you really get much value out of that.
 
mhindy said:
What I'm really saying is that I don't think he felt the 35 was as useful as perhaps we do. I think second rounders become hard to draft when you don't know what you have because they have a lower skill set overall but often excel at one thing. On a more developed team, it's easier to draft someone who fits a need. On this team, you're trying to draft BPA essentially at 35 and I'm just not sure that you really get much value out of that.
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You may be right, but I personally see tons of potential (team needs, nonetheless) at 35. Will Barton, Darius Miller, Doron Lamb, etc .. could all be there. Doesn't matter and it's not like I'm mad or anything .. really just wanted more drama on draft night.
 
PKM said:
I wasn't there, but heard that Doron Lamb blew people away in his workouts. Text I got, "Sick crossover, surprisingly strong handles, and missed nothing, like not a shot, from anywhere." In another text I asked if there was an opinion as to whether he could play point. Response was, "definitely." Rumored that Philly is all over him.

Now, like I've said many times, everyone of the draftees could be getting similar reports, I just hear the most on the UK guys. (Also Scoop Jardine was underwhelming the scouts)
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Yesterday Locke was tweeting that he was scouting the UNC/UK game and he was surprised by Doron Lamb - He said the exact same thing, that he thought Lamb could be a point in the NBA...

"Need 2 watch more - I am falling in love with Doron Lamb of Kentucky - projected by @DraftExpress and @chadfordinsider as early 2nd rnd; Love Doron Lamb's size, he can shoot, think he can play some 1 off the bench, Gets to line, plays pnr well - need to see more"

"RT @MarkJW_echo1: @Lockedonsports You love his size? I always thought he was an undersized 2 guard. (strong 6'5 - might be a 1)"
 
Sorry if I'm burying other posts some may find interesting. If no one has caught it, a GSW rep said they're looking to trade their #7 .. but if not, they're targeting TJones. I assume that's misdirection?
 
PKM said:
Sorry if I'm burying other posts some may find interesting. If no one has caught it, a GSW rep said they're looking to trade their #7 .. but if not, they're targeting TJones. I assume that's misdirection?
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#7 seems high for TJones.
 
I hope Perry blows them away in a workout, and they draft him, but then just busts hardcore.


**** Golden State.
 
PKM said:
Sorry if I'm burying other posts some may find interesting. If no one has caught it, a GSW rep said they're looking to trade their #7 .. but if not, they're targeting TJones. I assume that's misdirection?
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Chad Ford reported the same thing the other day - he originally had GSW pegged to take Sullinger, but said he heard the Warriors were on TJones...
 
orangello said:
I was thinking like 12-15 so I guess close to what you were thinking.
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Pretty close. His size (6'9 / 260) is hard to come by with a full skillset (other than a ridiculously slow release). I don't see more than 10 or 11 guys going before him.
 
PKM said:
Pretty close. His size (6'9 / 260) is hard to come by with a full skillset (other than a ridiculously slow release). I don't see more than 10 or 11 guys going before him.
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I agree with you but I can also easily see teams drafting need that late instead of BPA.

There is a lot of potential in this draft and from the sounds of it if teams cannot trade down they will instead reach, hence the 12-15 guess.

Who knows, maybe he will be drafted at 12 or 13 and we will both be right. :D
 
orangello said:
I agree with you but I can also easily see teams drafting need that late instead of BPA.

There is a lot of potential in this draft and from the sounds of it if teams cannot trade down they will instead reach, hence the 12-15 guess.

Who knows, maybe he will be drafted at 12 or 13 and we will both be right. :D
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That's actually where I think he goes.
 
This draft should be a lot of fun to watch. I would love to see the jazz move up and draft doron lamb even if he just turned into a combo guard but I would love to see if he can play point full time.

I think Jeff Taylor would be a great asset for this team. Even though he is a rookie he was a senior he is one of the players that can come in and play right away. He also fills 3 needs, 3 pt shooting, defense ans sf.
 
mhindy said:
What I'm really saying is that I don't think he felt the 35 was as useful as perhaps we do. I think second rounders become hard to draft when you don't know what you have because they have a lower skill set overall but often excel at one thing. On a more developed team, it's easier to draft someone who fits a need. On this team, you're trying to draft BPA essentially at 35 and I'm just not sure that you really get much value out of that.
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With KOC's history picking second round gems I would have loved to get the 35th pick. I think there are plenty of quality players at the top of the second round.
 
Seems like a lot of teams are trying to get rid of their pick or move down because they feel there are many players with similar abilities lower in the draft.
 
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