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Following potential 2012 draftees

First full game I watched of Beal's. Dude can rebound, but he looked below average other than that. Weak drives with bad turnovers and missed shot after missed shot.


I was not very impressed with him when he played against TOSU. He couldn't finish at the rim, turned the ball over 5 times(seemed like more), and didn't shoot the ball well.
 
Top Bigs: Drummond, Davis, Perry Jones (even if he's soft, he creates an instant mismatch)
Honorable Mention: Sullinger, Terrence Jones, Thomas Robinson

Top SFs: Miller, Barnes
Honorable Mention: Kidd-Gilchrist, Adonis Thomas

Top SGs: Jeremy Lamb, Beal
Honorable Mention: Rivers

Throw in a player like Henson, Patric Young or McAdoo, and that will probably be the lottery.
 
Top Bigs: Drummond, Davis, Perry Jones (even if he's soft, he creates an instant mismatch)
Honorable Mention: Sullinger, Terrence Jones, Thomas Robinson

Top SFs: Miller, Barnes
Honorable Mention: Kidd-Gilchrist, Adonis Thomas

Top SGs: Jeremy Lamb, Beal
Honorable Mention: Rivers

Throw in a player like Henson, Patric Young or McAdoo, and that will probably be the lottery.

Nice list. Adonis Thomas is not yet ready to have on the list, but nat far off, either. Rivers easily deserves in the same list as Lamb and Beal, easily.
 
Nice list. Adonis Thomas is not yet ready to have on the list, but nat far off, either. Rivers easily deserves in the same list as Lamb and Beal, easily.

I hate to sound like a homer, but I think I would put Rivers ahead of Beal.

Before the year started, I thought that Rivers would take a while to adjust to the college game and playing in a team setting...but damn, he has proven me wrong. He's gotten better every single game, and outside of Mason Plumlee was the only Duke player that showed up against OSU. His shot is better than I thought it would be and he can take anybody off the dribble, anybody. Just needs to get better at finishing....also a surprisingly good passer.


/End homerism.
 
I hate to sound like a homer, but I think I would put Rivers ahead of Beal.

Before the year started, I thought that Rivers would take a while to adjust to the college game and playing in a team setting...but damn, he has proven me wrong. He's gotten better every single game, and outside of Mason Plumlee was the only Duke player that showed up against OSU. His shot is better than I thought it would be and he can take anybody off the dribble, anybody. Just needs to get better at finishing....also a surprisingly good passer.


/End homerism.

You're a Duke fan??

Dear God.
 
I hate to sound like a homer, but I think I would put Rivers ahead of Beal.

Before the year started, I thought that Rivers would take a while to adjust to the college game and playing in a team setting...but damn, he has proven me wrong. He's gotten better every single game, and outside of Mason Plumlee was the only Duke player that showed up against OSU. His shot is better than I thought it would be and he can take anybody off the dribble, anybody. Just needs to get better at finishing....also a surprisingly good passer.


/End homerism.

I really like the progression rivers has made as well. Jeremy Lamb is heads and shoulders above all the guards IMO. I really like the SG class this year.
 
Would Marshall guard Lamb then? I'm not very familiar with UK's lineup, so I'm sure PKM could say more, but I think Marshall on Lamb would be an even bigger mismatch for Marshall.

Marshall would not get toasted by Teague. Lamb would laugh at Marshall trying to guard him, though. Marshall has to take Teague and he'd do just fine.
 
I really like the progression rivers has made as well. Jeremy Lamb is heads and shoulders above all the guards IMO. I really like the SG class this year.

Disagree that Lamb is heads and shoulders above Rivers. Right now I'd take Rivers, then Lamb 2, and Beal 2A.
 
Scouting the PG's for todays's game (as if there hasn't been enough of that).

Teague vs. Marshall

You'll be hard-pressed to find any opposing point guard, including UNC's Kendall Marshall who can match UK freshman Marquis Teague's speed, aggressiveness, penetration skills and NBA potential. But Marshall does so with bbIQ, superb court vision, and elite passing skills. Teague, while solid in his last three games, is still finding his way in college basketball and learning the finer points of a Calipari offense that demands so much from its lead guard. Marshall doesn't score much but is the ultimate facilitator, averaging a stellar 10.2 assists per game. His hit-ahead passes in transition are pinpoint and skip passes in the halfcourt always seem directed at the right man. Not many point guards win a head-to-head edge over the immensely talented (albeit young) Teague, but, at least in early December, Marshall is one of the rare few. EDGE: North Carolina
 
Scouting the SG's for today's game.

Lamb vs. Strickland (Bullock)

Not many starting shooting guards make it seven games into the season without a three-point shot attempt, but North Carolina's Dexter Strickland hasn't launched a single three this season. The Tar Heels' sharpest shooting at the position comes off the bench, but P.J. Hairston is expected to miss the game with a wrist injury (though Reggie Bullock isn't too far behind Hairston this year). Shooting isn't an issue for Kentucky's Doron Lamb, who's made a team-high 14 three-pointers and averages 14.4 points per game. Not to mention Lamb sometimes makes getting a little floater in the lane look too easy. EDGE: Kentucky
 
SF's

Kidd-Gilchrist vs. Barnes

Assuming Kentucky starts with its standard lineup, freshman Michael Kidd-Gilchrist will draw the unenviable task of defending Harrison Barnes. The North Carolina swingman averages 17.7 points per game and can score in a variety of ways. He shoots three pointers, drives to the rim and shows a midrange game. Kidd-Gilchrist is a strong defender, but he has his work cut out for him. K-G has drawn the toughest defensive assignments all year and is not expected to do a lot of the scoring for the team. He does, however, quietly fill the stat sheet. EDGE: North Carolina
 
PF's

Jones vs. Henson

If there is any player in the country who can match up against John Henson's freakish athleticism, it's UK's Terrence Jones. Henson is long and is a superb rebounder and shot blocker. His 220-pound frame might be a defensive liability in the NBA, but I expect he'll have a big game today. Jones' range and overall offensive game is more complete than Henson's, which makes for a very interesting matchup. There's also one glaring weakness in Henson's game that teams can exploit: He's a terrible free throw shooter. Kentucky can't afford to have a player like Jones sitting on the bench in foul trouble, but Henson is shooting below 50 percent at the charity stripe this year, so he can be slowed down. Jones' decision-making has improved dramatically from his freshman year, though he'll face one of his toughest tests of the season on Saturday. EDGE: Kentucky (even?)
 
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Davis vs. Zeller

Center: The center matchup might be the most peculiar of the game. While Anthony Davis and Tyler Zeller plug the five hole for their respective teams, it would be surprising if the two guarded each other the majority of the game. But if they are matched up, something has to give, Zeller overwhelms Davis in finesse and power but will Zeller score over Davis' length? Will Zeller be able to guard Davis on the perimeter or off the dribble? Zeller and Davis have different styles, Zeller being more fundamentally sound and developed, Davis being more athletic. But both are so talented, don't expect one to overpower the other. Both have to impact the game without scoring - Zeller with his rebounding, and Davis with blocked or altered shots. EDGE: Even
 
Guess I shouldn't be surprised, but reports today (from UK athletics administration) state that EVERY NBA franchise will be represented at today's game. A lot of pressure on these 14 (or so) future NBA'rs.
 
I really have no idea who will win this game.

On one hand I say UNC because of experience and I think they have a more balanced team, but they have underperformed so far.

On the other I say UK because their defense is ridiculously good and they usually win the tempo battle. They have little half court offense other than Terrance Jones though.
 
I really have no idea who will win this game.

On one hand I say UNC because of experience and I think they have a more balanced team, but they have underperformed so far.

On the other I say UK because their defense is ridiculously good and they usually win the tempo battle. They have little half court offense other than Terrance Jones though.

werd. I have predicted a 3pt loss for UK for a few months now .. I think it should be a pick'm. Vegas has UK by 6. O/U is 152.5 and I'm taking the under .. I suspect there will be a lot of feeling each other out that will lead to a lower than normal scoring game. I'd put the O/U more like 145.
 
in only 26 minutes, Davis is less than 1 rebound away from averaging a double-double and is blocking it 4.9 times per game. wowz
 
I took KY plus 6. I think they match up well and really should be able to run on UNC. UNC showed a lack of transition D against UNLV and I think UK will expose them even further.
 
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