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Thee jazz fan said:
Stockton had the same issues in Utah. I often felt if he wanted to he could've been a 20 point scorer if he really wanted to.
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I wasn't really trying to make that comparison, because Stockton was a very good offensive player who was too passive some times. Marshall is a sub-par offensive player who is too passive, which makes him terrible offensively.

It's hard for someone to improve offensively if they don't work on it in the game, and I feel like Marshall is finally starting to do that.
 
I had always wondered if Marshall was a better scorer than he was letting on (I even brought this up once), and I'm glad to see he's bringing that other dimension into his game. I still don't think he'll be much of a scorer in the NBA, unless he does some major work on his shot, but it's nice to know he can at least do it in college fairly well.

What does everyone see Marshall averaging in the NBA?
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Stockton had the same issues in Utah. I often felt if he wanted to he could've been a 20 point scorer if he really wanted to.
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Completely different. Stockton, while being passive about scoring at times still shot above 50%. Marshall dreams of doing that. I do agree with Cy's point though.
 
NUMBERICA said:
To cite DX, he's Ryan Gomes.
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Are you drunk? DX's best case scenario for him is Luke Harangody....are we talking about the same guy? Doug McDermott from Creigton? He's an under-sized PF. I don't remember who compared him to Wally Szerbiak...somebody did in here, that was just terrible and I doubt they've ever seen him play. He is nothing more than an under-sized PF who hustles well and can shoot well when open. I'm not a big fan of him.
 
Hantlers said:
Are you drunk? DX's best case scenario for him is Luke Harangody....are we talking about the same guy? Doug McDermott from Creigton? He's an under-sized PF. I don't remember who compared him to Wally Szerbiak...somebody did in here, that was just terrible and I doubt they've ever seen him play. He is nothing more than an under-sized PF who hustles well and can shoot well when open. I'm not a big fan of him.
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Sounds like Ryan Gomes to me.

Oh, and:

How about Ryan Gomes? Monster scorer in college. Undersized 4. Super smart. Competitive. RT @visbol: Any NBA comparison for Doug McDermott?

From DraftExpress.com https://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz1p2XSwq92
https://www.draftexpress.com
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I guess McDermott's white, so my apologies.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
I wasn't really trying to make that comparison, because Stockton was a very good offensive player who was too passive some times. Marshall is a sub-par offensive player who is too passive, which makes him terrible offensively.

It's hard for someone to improve offensively if they don't work on it in the game, and I feel like Marshall is finally starting to do that.
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Sorry didn't mean to compare there offensive games, yes Stockton is a good shooter, while Marshall isn't just stating that both looked to get others involved first and at times neglected their own offense. Both defer to their elite passing skill.
 
spycam1 said:
I had always wondered if Marshall was a better scorer than he was letting on (I even brought this up once), and I'm glad to see he's bringing that other dimension into his game. I still don't think he'll be much of a scorer in the NBA, unless he does some major work on his shot, but it's nice to know he can at least do it in college fairly well.

What does everyone see Marshall averaging in the NBA?
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I think it depends on how his playmaking skills translates to the NBA. If he becomes a great playmaker he will score less if he is just average, he will make up for it with his offense. But I'd say 10 to 14 points is my guess.
 
spycam1 said:
I had always wondered if Marshall was a better scorer than he was letting on (I even brought this up once), and I'm glad to see he's bringing that other dimension into his game. I still don't think he'll be much of a scorer in the NBA, unless he does some major work on his shot, but it's nice to know he can at least do it in college fairly well.

What does everyone see Marshall averaging in the NBA?
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Depends on the situation (team offensive philosophy, minutes, etc) but I'd say 5 - 7.

EDIT: with 7 or 8 assists.
 
Hantlers said:
Are you drunk? DX's best case scenario for him is Luke Harangody....are we talking about the same guy? Doug McDermott from Creigton? He's an under-sized PF. I don't remember who compared him to Wally Szerbiak...somebody did in here, that was just terrible and I doubt they've ever seen him play. He is nothing more than an under-sized PF who hustles well and can shoot well when open. I'm not a big fan of him.
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I compared him to Wally from the little I'd seen. Just watched some more highlights which really should probably be called lowlights. Not impressed at all.
 
PKM said:
Depends on the situation (team offensive philosophy, minutes, etc) but I'd say 5 - 7.

EDIT: with 7 or 8 assists.
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5-7? Even pretty inept offensive players like Kidd and Rondo always got in the 12-14 range I think. I suppose they're more athletic and therefore can get to the rim better but still, 5-7 seems low. I think more like 9-10 points (worst case) with 10 assists. Respectfully. He's only a sophomore so I see no reason his shooting can't improve. Maybe even dramatically.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
5-7? Even pretty inept offensive players like Kidd and Rondo always got in the 12-14 range I think. I suppose they're more athletic and therefore can get to the rim better but still, 5-7 seems low. I think more like 9-10 points (worst case) with 10 assists. Respectfully. He's only a sophomore so I see no reason his shooting can't improve. Maybe even dramatically.
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Def could be .. they're just projections .. and I hold firm to 7.5/7.5
 
NUMBERICA said:
Sounds like Ryan Gomes to me.

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I guess McDermott's white, so my apologies.
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Oh my apologies, I didn't see their tweet thing. I was just looking at their main page on him where they compared him to Harangody. Either way, from what I've seen I think Gomes is much better than McDermott. McDermott has slow, slow feet. Can't move laterally at all. I highly doubt he'll ever be anything more than a role player on the NBA level, and even that's a stretch.
 
Iona plays at just a torrid pace. Machado makes sharp passes in open floor and generally knows where to find his guys, but his numbers have to be inflated by the run-n-gun these guys play. This looks like Nellie ball.
 
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