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Trey Burke.
Trey Burke.
Following potential 2013 draftees
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orangello
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You've been gone for a week and that is all that you can contribute to this discussion?
orangello
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I just want to get this out there so that everyone knows where "orange" stands as far as a draft pick is concerned.
I want a legit SF that can play above average defense and has some sort of an offensive game that the other team has to respect in some way shape or form. That offensive game can be as a slasher (as long as they can finish at the rim consistently), a shooter or someone that can get to the basket due to their own abilities and skills.
My reasoning behind this is because Hayward can play a mix of the 2/3 positions. Burks can be solid at the 2 and if we can draft a true SF that has the aforementioned abilities that I just listed then the Jazz would have a solid 2/3 rotation that can grow together. Hayward has proven that he can defend at a respectable level. Burks has the physical attributes to do so (I just hope that he uses his mind to want to play good defense) and if you can draft someone that has good defensive attributes. Add the fact that Favors is sitting behind those three and suddenly you have the workings of a team that could realistically be defensive oriented enough to get someone in the league.
If Poythress is that guy then I will be happy (I believe that he has all of those abilities that I "require"). If it is the Wes-man-crush-himself Tony Mitchell then I will be happy. If it is Adonis Thomas then I will be happy. If it someone else that realy makes a name foe themselves this year ala Kawhi Leonard then I will be happy. Do you see where I am going with this?
I am a little worried that this fan base is so PG oriented because of the talent that has played in "Swat Lake City" that they will instead want to reach for a PG that will never reach those same heights while we complain or let slip through our fingers a player that can really help this team get to the next level defensively.
One last thought before I step down from the pulpit, the offense was not the problem last year. I am tired of hearing people say, "If we trade Al or Millsap then where will the offense come from?" The Jazz have guys on the team that can score. What the Jazz have been struggling with is stopping anyone for scoring. Yes, Al scores a lot and he also blocked more shots on a per minute basis last year than Favors. So WHAT?? He also had players with abilities that ranged from the Elite to the Bums of the NBA that scored on him. Let's focus on defense. We can always find a way to put the ball into the basket. What we can't always find is a team of guys that is so committed to defense (and actually have the ability to do so) that other teams struggle to score.
/stepping down
I want a legit SF that can play above average defense and has some sort of an offensive game that the other team has to respect in some way shape or form. That offensive game can be as a slasher (as long as they can finish at the rim consistently), a shooter or someone that can get to the basket due to their own abilities and skills.
My reasoning behind this is because Hayward can play a mix of the 2/3 positions. Burks can be solid at the 2 and if we can draft a true SF that has the aforementioned abilities that I just listed then the Jazz would have a solid 2/3 rotation that can grow together. Hayward has proven that he can defend at a respectable level. Burks has the physical attributes to do so (I just hope that he uses his mind to want to play good defense) and if you can draft someone that has good defensive attributes. Add the fact that Favors is sitting behind those three and suddenly you have the workings of a team that could realistically be defensive oriented enough to get someone in the league.
If Poythress is that guy then I will be happy (I believe that he has all of those abilities that I "require"). If it is the Wes-man-crush-himself Tony Mitchell then I will be happy. If it is Adonis Thomas then I will be happy. If it someone else that realy makes a name foe themselves this year ala Kawhi Leonard then I will be happy. Do you see where I am going with this?
I am a little worried that this fan base is so PG oriented because of the talent that has played in "Swat Lake City" that they will instead want to reach for a PG that will never reach those same heights while we complain or let slip through our fingers a player that can really help this team get to the next level defensively.
One last thought before I step down from the pulpit, the offense was not the problem last year. I am tired of hearing people say, "If we trade Al or Millsap then where will the offense come from?" The Jazz have guys on the team that can score. What the Jazz have been struggling with is stopping anyone for scoring. Yes, Al scores a lot and he also blocked more shots on a per minute basis last year than Favors. So WHAT?? He also had players with abilities that ranged from the Elite to the Bums of the NBA that scored on him. Let's focus on defense. We can always find a way to put the ball into the basket. What we can't always find is a team of guys that is so committed to defense (and actually have the ability to do so) that other teams struggle to score.
/stepping down
Good post, gello.
Let's say, hypothetically, that we pick around 8 or 9.. I don't see us reaching for a PG. In addition to the SF's you have mentioned, we should be watching Reggie Bullock (a bit undersized, but strong and a deadly shooter) and LeBryan Nash (a bit of a mental turd, but an elite athlete and a terror to defend).
Let's say, hypothetically, that we pick around 8 or 9.. I don't see us reaching for a PG. In addition to the SF's you have mentioned, we should be watching Reggie Bullock (a bit undersized, but strong and a deadly shooter) and LeBryan Nash (a bit of a mental turd, but an elite athlete and a terror to defend).
Bullock is UNC. He's a really good player all around, just a tad short. Leslie is better than he's being projected.. he's been horribly under-coached and misused. (I don't care to expound on that)
Chargers Jazz Angels
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Great post orange but I want to add 1 more requirement. I want a sf that is willing to play their role. I don't want some guy that thinks he has to be the man. I want some one that just has to win.
orangello
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We are totally on the same page.
So what's the story on Moser? Sorry if it was covered somewhere in the 24 pgs of this thread.
From little I've heard, there is just too much concern over him being an undersized PF and not enough faith he can effectively play the 3. Everyone seems to love him, but not confident enough to have him picked in the lottery. He would have to show some real improvement in his perimeter skills to significantly move up. Having said that, I'd say he's a lock for top top 25.
From what I have seen of Moser he is a very similar player to Royce White. He is a slightly undersized PF who can rebound and handle the ball well. Moser is an inconsistent outside shooter but he is world's better offensively than Royce White. But White has a very rare passing ability for a big man. Overall I see Moser as a backup big man on a poor team.
orangello
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I can't seem to find a birthday anywhere.