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Following potential 2013 draftees

Cyrone Torbin said:
A 1st round promise won't do anything for WCS. He is a 1st rounder guaranteed. A lottery promise might do it.
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This.

Vermin said:
WCS is probably a top 10 pick THIS year. everyone knows that bigs rise the fastest in pre draft workouts. He is showing too much potential as it is. I really dont see us having a chance at him unfortunately.
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I'd say you're close. I think right now he's slotted around 11/12 with every team's scouts hoping for a tourney run to get a better gauge .. he's still only played 5 games without Noel.. meaning, getting starter's minutes.

Tony said:
Anyway, I guarantee all of you that he stays in school another year. Calipari will get him to stay.
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Calipari only tells them the truth, period. If Cal thinks it's in his best interest to stay, he'll tell him that.. but he will not convince anyone to stay .. he does convince them to go, though.

Cyrone Torbin said:
Possible. Looking at other big men in DX top 10 for 2013 draft.

Does he surpass Isiah Austin? I don't think so
Does he surpass Rudy Gobert? I really know nothing about this guy, so I give that a strong possibility.
Does he surpass Len? Also don't know much about him at all, but he has been consistently ranked high all season, so luke-warm possibility.
Does he surpass Zeller? No
Does he surpass Noel? No

There are so many center options this year, which I why I think he will stay in school another year.
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Again, not sure why this matters. It's only about where you get drafted. What difference does it really make whether you follow all PG's or all C's?

NUMBERICA said:
Calipari's thing has been to get guys to enter in case you didn't know.
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Thank you.

nothingbutnet said:
If WCS stays and all of the talent that Kentucky is getting next year they are going to be unreal. I have read that Calipari is probably going to try his hardest to convince him to stay, but he is a guaranteed lottery pick this year.
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Not true and that link was mere speculation. That conversation has not been had.. you can take that to the bank.
 
nothingbutnet said:
Draftexpress and ESPN have no idea what they are talking about. DX has Rudy Gobert at 9th and WCS at 21st? It was updated this morning too. ESPN has Gary Harris at 10th and WCS at 16th? Nbadraft.net has WCS at 10th! Nbadraft.net has been credible with what they have projected and said in the past couple years.
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False. ESPN is clueless, agreed. But DX is the best. Givony and crew are everywhere. I have seen them talking to the coaching staff and players, at int'l events, HS gyms .. everywhere. I have never seen nbadraft.net, ever.. and I have had many people say they just create articles from reading other's articles, but they have very limited direct contacts.

nothingbutnet said:
Right now I see the Jazz getting picks in the 12-14 range depending on what happens and in the 16-20 range depending on what happens. Jazz biggest need right now is a point guard and here is a analysis on what I think of all off them in the lottery range. Smart is out of the Jazz range, MCW has bad character and off the court issues plus he is playing horribly lately, and McCollum is a shooting guard in my opinion. Trey Burke is the point guard the Jazz need to go after period.
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All of these guys have intriguing upside, imo .. but I agree that Trey is 100% the best fit for the Jazz.
 
PKM said:
False. ESPN is clueless, agreed. But DX is the best. Givony and crew are everywhere. I have seen them talking to the coaching staff and players, at int'l events, HS gyms .. everywhere. I have never seen nbadraft.net, ever.. and I have had many people say they just create articles from reading other's articles, but they have very limited direct contacts.



All of these guys have intriguing upside, imo .. but I agree that Trey is 100% the best fit for the Jazz.
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Why does DX have WCS at 21st? I understand Gobert at 9th because DX is always experts on international prospects.
 
nothingbutnet said:
Why does DX have WCS at 21st? I understand Gobert at 9th because DX is always experts on international prospects.
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I don't always agree with them. Givony hated Enes and all but guaranteed him a bust. I often think they're wrong.
But I've been following this avidly for 20+ years and I'm just saying they're the best at getting it right .. but they're far from perfect.
 
PKM said:
I'd call it a maybe.. obviously there's a slight chance they piss us all off .. and we don't need a 3rd big from the draft.
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Well I hope we don't re-sign Jefferson and Millsap. WCS, Plumlee, Olynyk, and Gobert wouldn't be bad options for the Jazz as a 3rd big.
 
PKM said:
I don't always agree with them. Givony hated Enes and all but guaranteed him a bust. I often think they're wrong.
But I've been following this avidly for 20+ years and I'm just saying they're the best at getting it right .. but they're far from perfect.
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Beyond hyperbole.

But ultimately agreed on all points. Givony was not high on Kanter, that's for sure.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Beyond hyperbole.

But ultimately agreed on all points. Givony was not high on Kanter, that's for sure.
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I'll usually own up .. and maybe I was overly sensitive, but his vids on poor defense and all the negative stuff was pretty transparent, imo.
 
I think Givony is in the pocket of the overseas leagues officially or unofficially, and I think spurned Turkish clubs somehow got to him, but we'll never know, I guess.

When I saw Kanter at the NHS, my eyes widened. Hobbled players don't just show up and casually break HOF-ers scoring records in less than 30-minutes every year. The question for me was always what had happened since that game and what would happen once he was drafted. People that didn't see the talent baffle me in that regard. So when Givony just can't come off the negatives, despite that other draft sites seemed to be hitting way more on the topic of Kanter than him... I don't know, just didn't and doesn't seem right. Especially since Givony hits way more than anyone else in the game.
 
I will admit that I wanted Brandon Knight instead of Enes Kanter, but did have Kanter as the #4 best player in the draft. I am glad I was wrong though. Kanter could easily be the best or second best player in the 2011 draft.
 
Obviously there's a lot of time between now and the end of the cbb season. Things will change, stocks will rise and fall. Right now I'd put WCS around 14 - 16. If I was that kid, and got a guarantee at, say, 17... then I'd take a hard look.

Anyways, the WCS stuff is a sideshow for me. I'm dialed in on Burke... he needs a Note on his chest.
 
Nate Wolters is impressing me right now. 9 points on (3-5) from the field, 4 rebounds, 3 assists, and 1 steal with only 1 turnover at half. His team is winning 29-25, one thing I noticed this game is he likes to find 3 point-shooters in transition if they are open. If he had a better supporting cast he would have more assists all in all he is looking pretty solid right now.
 
nothingbutnet said:
Nate Wolters is impressing me right now. 9 points on (3-5) from the field, 4 rebounds, 3 assists, and 1 steal with only 1 turnover at half. His team is winning 29-25, one thing I noticed this game is he likes to find 3 point-shooters in transition if they are open. If he had a better supporting cast he would have more assists all in all he is looking pretty solid right now.
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Link to game?
 
SDSU looks like they have a pretty solid team to me. Some good outside shooters and a couple of decent sized big men who can play.
 
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