Following potential 2013 draftees

[cowhide]

I would take a serious look at Rice Jr. at 21.

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

the problem with rice jr is he takes plays off and doesn't try all the time on defense. I don't want a player like that.

 

[mellow]

Gobert to Dallas seems perfect to me. The thing is if the Jazz take a PG at #14, who will they take at #21?

SI Mock Draft. https://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/n...raft-2013-nerlens-noel-ben-mclemore-alex-len/

Jazz take Shcroder #14 and Gobert #21. nobody would complain about that. Olynk, Dieng, Gobert, Adams, or Plumlee--I'm thinking atleast one of them will be available when the Jazz pick 21.

 

[The Midnight]

SI Mock Draft. https://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/n...raft-2013-nerlens-noel-ben-mclemore-alex-len/

Jazz take Shcroder #14 and gobert #21. nobody would complain about that.

This is what he wrote about Bazz (picked #15 BTW).

The more executives you talk to about Muhammad, the more likely it seems he slips out of the lottery. Muhammad is a scorer who prefers to play the 2-guard spot, but he has the size and strength to play small forward, too. Questions about Muhammad's attitude and one-dimensional play linger. "He just doesn't do a lot of things," an Eastern Conference executive said. "If he's not a great scorer, he doesn't help you much." The Bucks ranked 21st points per possession this season, so a productive Muhammad will help.

 

[orangello]

I say Rice Jr over Shabazz all day.

Shabazz reminds me of a Derrick Williams flop.

This.

 

[orangello]

My first attempt at a mock draft, constructive criticism and complements are wanted:

I like it. I would swap out Adams for Olynyk to the Thunder. Len fell a lot but I can't necessarily argue with the people in front of him.

I don't think that Chicago takes another wing. I think they look big, like Withey.

 

[orangello]

the problem with rice jr is he takes plays off and doesn't try all the time on defense. I don't want a player like that.

We saw that all last year. Why would things change now?

 

[Game6Conley]

1 Alex Len
7'1" C, Maryland
2 Shabazz Muhammad
6'6" SF, UCLA
3 Nerlens Noel
7'0" C, Kentucky
4 Victor Oladipo
6'4" SG, Indiana
5 Dennis Schroeder
6'2" PG, Germany
6 Anthony Bennett
6'8" PF, UNLV
7 Ben McLemore
6'5" SG, Kansas
8 Otto Porter
6'9" SF, Georgetown
9 Cody Zeller
7'0" PF, Indiana
10 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
6'6" SG, Georgia
11 Mason Plumlee
7'0" C, Duke
12 Trey Burke
6'1" PG, Michigan
13 Rudy Gobert
7'2" PF, France
14 Dario Saric
6'10" SF, Croatia
15 Steven Adams
7'0" C, Pittsburgh
16 Michael Carter-Williams
6'6" PG, Syracuse
17 C.J. McCollum
6'3" PG, Lehigh
18 Tim Hardaway Jr.
6'6" SG, Michigan
19 Kelly Olynyk
7'0" C, Gonzaga
20 Jamaal Franklin
6'5" SG, San Diego State
21 Tony Mitchell
6'8" SF, North Texas
22 Giannis Antetokounmpo
6'9" SF, Greece
23 Shane Larkin
6'0" PG, Miami
24 Sergey Karasev
6'7" SG, Russia
25 Glen Rice Jr.
6'6" SG, NBDL
26 Reggie Bullock
6'7" SF, North Carolina
27 Lucas Nogueira
6'11" C, Brazil
28 Allen Crabbe
6'6" SG, California
29 Tony Snell
6'7" SF, New Mexico
30 Ricardo Ledo
6'6" PG, Providence

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

honestly playing the draft machine I see the jazz getting bazz or McCollum.

I think Detroit goes for a bigger guard and I have kcp ranked higher then bazz. McCollum could easily be another stuckey and I think they go kcp.

I think minny is the next choice and McCollum could be their guy but again bazz is bigger and could play 2/3 where McCollum will play 1/2. nba teams seem to be stuck on size. if they go McCollum bazz slips if they go bazz McCollum slips.

 

[The Midnight]

1 Alex Len
7'1" C, Maryland
2 Shabazz Muhammad
6'6" SF, UCLA
3 Nerlens Noel
7'0" C, Kentucky
4 Victor Oladipo
6'4" SG, Indiana
5 Dennis Schroeder
6'2" PG, Germany
6 Anthony Bennett
6'8" PF, UNLV
7 Ben McLemore
6'5" SG, Kansas
8 Otto Porter
6'9" SF, Georgetown
9 Cody Zeller
7'0" PF, Indiana
10 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
6'6" SG, Georgia
11 Mason Plumlee
7'0" C, Duke
12 Trey Burke
6'1" PG, Michigan
13 Rudy Gobert
7'2" PF, France
14 Dario Saric
6'10" SF, Croatia
15 Steven Adams
7'0" C, Pittsburgh
16 Michael Carter-Williams
6'6" PG, Syracuse
17 C.J. McCollum
6'3" PG, Lehigh
18 Tim Hardaway Jr.
6'6" SG, Michigan
19 Kelly Olynyk
7'0" C, Gonzaga
20 Jamaal Franklin
6'5" SG, San Diego State
21 Tony Mitchell
6'8" SF, North Texas
22 Giannis Antetokounmpo
6'9" SF, Greece
23 Shane Larkin
6'0" PG, Miami
24 Sergey Karasev
6'7" SG, Russia
25 Glen Rice Jr.
6'6" SG, NBDL
26 Reggie Bullock
6'7" SF, North Carolina
27 Lucas Nogueira
6'11" C, Brazil
28 Allen Crabbe
6'6" SG, California
29 Tony Snell
6'7" SF, New Mexico
30 Ricardo Ledo
6'6" PG, Providence

Great to see you back bro! Great list there too - a Saric/Mitchell draft is really a home run swing. I like it!!!!

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

1 Alex Len
7'1" C, Maryland
2 Shabazz Muhammad
6'6" SF, UCLA
3 Nerlens Noel
7'0" C, Kentucky
4 Victor Oladipo
6'4" SG, Indiana
5 Dennis Schroeder
6'2" PG, Germany
6 Anthony Bennett
6'8" PF, UNLV
7 Ben McLemore
6'5" SG, Kansas
8 Otto Porter
6'9" SF, Georgetown
9 Cody Zeller
7'0" PF, Indiana
10 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
6'6" SG, Georgia
11 Mason Plumlee
7'0" C, Duke
12 Trey Burke
6'1" PG, Michigan
13 Rudy Gobert
7'2" PF, France
14 Dario Saric
6'10" SF, Croatia
15 Steven Adams
7'0" C, Pittsburgh
16 Michael Carter-Williams
6'6" PG, Syracuse
17 C.J. McCollum
6'3" PG, Lehigh
18 Tim Hardaway Jr.
6'6" SG, Michigan
19 Kelly Olynyk
7'0" C, Gonzaga
20 Jamaal Franklin
6'5" SG, San Diego State
21 Tony Mitchell
6'8" SF, North Texas
22 Giannis Antetokounmpo
6'9" SF, Greece
23 Shane Larkin
6'0" PG, Miami
24 Sergey Karasev
6'7" SG, Russia
25 Glen Rice Jr.
6'6" SG, NBDL
26 Reggie Bullock
6'7" SF, North Carolina
27 Lucas Nogueira
6'11" C, Brazil
28 Allen Crabbe
6'6" SG, California
29 Tony Snell
6'7" SF, New Mexico
30 Ricardo Ledo
6'6" PG, Providence

you are back and that is one of the worst mocks I have ever seen.

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

Great to see you back bro! Great list there too - a Saric/Mitchell draft is really a home run swing. I like it!!!!

suck up. the many shades of hottie kkk

 

[Game6Conley]

you are back and that is one of the worst mocks I have ever seen.

not a mock, thats my big board with no team concerns, as of right now.

will post a team concerned mock ina bit, you guys will like that better

 

[The Midnight]

you are back and that is one of the worst mocks I have ever seen.

suck up. the many shades of hottie kkk

Hell no. That's the best big board I've seen.

I've been saying this all along for anyone who wants to listen, "Schroeder has a higher ceiling than Burke and will be better in 3 years time".

That alone should put Schroeder ahead of Burke in any Boards/Mocks. It's just that scouts/commentators/teams have seen so little of him to be sure.

 

[The Midnight]

Here's my PG list this year in the order of preference:

1. Schroeder - quick, fast, plays defense, looking to pass, elite athleticism is key if you want to win Chips. I think he has a higher ceiling than Burke.

2. Burke - great leader, great handle, reliable, looking to pass, 3pt shooting, lower ceiling than Shroeder

3. McCollum - still not convince he's agile/nimble/quick enough to be a PG at the next level, but his shooting is undeniably vital for our squad

4. MCW - Still likes what he brings but still not sure whether he can hit those shots consistently

5. Larkin - more of a backup PG option at this stage

6. Wolters - he can shoot/score I get that, but I really question his athleticism at the next level

7. Canaan - backup PG ala Eddie House, may be a contending team like the Heat can use him.

^^^

I posted that list earlier today in the Schroeder Poll thread, the ordering is pretty much spot on what AB_PG had above (except McCollum/MCW switching their spots).

 

[Game6Conley]

1 Shabazz Muhammad
2 Alex Len
3 Nerlens Noel
4 Victor Oladipo
5 Ben McLemore
6 Anthony Bennett
7 Michael Carter-Williams
8 Otto Porter
9 Steven Adams
10 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
11 C.J. McCollum
12 Dennis Schroeder
13 Mason Plumlee
14 Trey Burke
15 Cody Zeller
16 Kelly Olynyk
17 Dario Saric
18 Jamaal Franklin
19 Rudy Gobert
20 Sergey Karasev
21 Tim Hardaway Jr.
22 Lucas Nogueira
23 Tony Mitchell
24 Shane Larkin
25 Giannis Antetokounmpo
26 Jeff Withey
27 Allen Crabbe
28 Glen Rice Jr.
29 Gorgui Dieng
30 Reggie Bullock

is what id do if i was those teams, at those picks, if the draft broke this way

 

[The Midnight]

^^^

My only question would be why would Orlando pick Len at #2 when they already have Vucevic playing Center...

 

[A-Train (old)]

^^^

My only question would be why would Orlando pick Len at #2 when they already have Vucevic playing Center...

Why would Sacramento and OKC take MCW and Schroeder over Burke?

 

[A-Train (old)]

I like it. I would swap out Adams for Olynyk to the Thunder. Len fell a lot but I can't necessarily argue with the people in front of him.

I don't think that Chicago takes another wing. I think they look big, like Withey.

Len did fall a lot I agree. Chicago needs a two guard though don't you think? They can't go wrong with a big either though. Thank you for your input!

 

[Game6Conley]

^^^

My only question would be why would Orlando pick Len at #2 when they already have Vucevic playing Center...

well who says the magic are trying to win next year? (not if i was in charge)

they have a similar dynamic to the jazz, Glen Davis and Afflalo are 27 all the other vets are 30+ and cant be in the long term plans

Mo Harkless is 20
Tobias Harris is 20
Andrew Nicholson's 23
Doron Lamb's 21
E'Twaun Moore's 24
Vucevic is 22 and i think could play PF next to Len(as could Davis), take a player like Ryan Kelly@52

Add in Andrew Harrison in 2014, and you have a young squad

Harrison, Afflalo, Harkless, Vucevic, Len