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Following potential 2013 draftees

2013 Portsmouth Invitational Tournament April 10-13

The Portsmith Invitational Tournament, once a hot spot for NBA scouts and College Seniors to prep before the draft gets more and more irrelevant each year.

Apparently they are having all kinds of trouble getting kids to come. More and more are backing out as it approaches.

IMO, if they want to try to be relevant again they need to move it up to get it done before the NCAA withdrawl deadline and open it up to all potential draftees, not just seniors.

here is the rosters. Jazz have attended Portsmith in the past. Haven't heard if they are this year under the Lindsey regime.
 
Chad Ford did his first Mock Draft today (Insider)

Also updated the Mock Lotto/Draft.

McGary up to #12.

CJ no where in sight.

So who would Jazz fanz prefer to see: Kelly Olynyk or Mason Plumlee
 
mellow said:
Chad Ford did his first Mock Draft today (Insider)

Also updated the Mock Lotto/Draft.

McGary up to #12.

CJ no where in sight.

So who would Jazz fanz prefer to see: Kelly Olynyk or Mason Plumlee
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CJ no where in sight for the jazz (projected to high for us), or no where on the mock draft at all?.... and if that is the case, how high does the mock go?
 
fishonjazz said:
CJ no where in sight for the jazz (projected to high for us), or no where on the mock draft at all?.... and if that is the case, how high does the mock go?
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Not on the mock lotto/draft. Ford may very well have slated CJ to the Jazz at 17-18, but without the Membership Privledges of an Insider, I will never know.
 
Why was everyone here rooting for Michigan?

Also, if they've 5 guys good enough to play in the NBA next year, how in the world did they lose?
 
Just for the record, I was happy that Louisville won. I liked their style of play better. Also, I was not impressed with the coach for Michigan judging by the 2 little pep talks I saw on TV.
 
MoreFeasts said:
Why was everyone here rooting for Michigan?

Also, if they've 5 guys good enough to play in the NBA next year, how in the world did they lose?
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I think the simple answer is "Rick Pitino". He had won this thing multiple times. He's been there, done that. When Michigan went on a run early, he used timeouts effectively, kept pushing his guys and was brave enough to bring in Hancockkk early when Russ was struggling. Also I think the fact that Michigan hadn't face a team that played zone the way Louisville did as well as that constant pressing.
 
MoreFeasts said:
Just for the record, I was happy that Louisville won. I liked their style of play better. Also, I was not impressed with the coach for Michigan judging by the 2 little pep talks I saw on TV.
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I think the game was lost in 3 areas, not all of them are related to Beilein's doing:

1. Siva outplayed Burke in the 2nd half. It's as simple as that. Siva was fast, he was running the show. If Burke has 1 achilles' heel, it's his speed. He doesn't seem to have that 5th gear the way guys like John Wall or Chris Paul have.

2. Louisville came up BIG inside with those offensive rebounds. Not much a coach can do about that.

3. I think Beilein leaving Burke out for most of 1st half with 2 fouls was a mistake. Burke never got used to the speed of the game in the 2nd half. He was their best player, and this was a championship game, Beilein should have rolled the dice and put Burke in the 1st.
 
Jazz's ESPN mock draft:

#17 C J McCollum

Analysis: The Jazz have been in the market for a point guard for a while and had their sights set on both Jimmer Fredette and Damian Lillard in the last two drafts only to lose them both. I'm not sure if McCollum is a true point guard, but I'm also not sure the Jazz need one as both Gordon Hayward and Alec Burks can handle the ball. What they really want is another shooter, and McCollum shot 51 percent from 3-point range before going down with a season-ending foot injury. He's one of the most dynamic scorers in the draft and some scouts believe he could be this year's Lillard.

#21 Jeff Withey

Analysis: If the Jazz go small with their first pick, don't be surprised to see them go big with their second one. Al Jefferson will most likely leave over the summer and Derrick Favors would probably take over as the starting 5, but he'll need help. Withey isn't special on the offensive end, but he's a dominant shot blocker who stays out of foul trouble. They'll be able to find 15 minutes a night for him.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
I think the game was lost in 3 areas, not all of them are related to Beilein's doing:

1. Siva outplayed Burke in the 2nd half. It's as simple as that. Siva was fast, he was running the show. If Burke has 1 achilles' heel, it's his speed. He doesn't seem to have that 5th gear the way guys like John Wall or Chris Paul have.

2. Louisville came up BIG inside with those offensive rebounds. Not much a coach can do about that.

3. I think Beilein leaving Burke out for most of 1st half with 2 fouls was a mistake. Burke never got used to the speed of the game in the 2nd half. He was their best player, and this was a championship game, Beilein should have rolled the dice and put Burke in the 1st.
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Are you suggesting that the reason players get pulled for foul trouble is for future games, then? Let me suggest to you that fouls don't carry over to other games, and that they'd rather have their best player at the end of the game than perhaps the most meaningless stretch of any given game (closing the first half).

It's ridiculously easy (emphasis on ridiculous) to use hindsight on this one. It's remarkable to use hindsight to suggest a bad strategy.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Are you suggesting that the reason players get pulled for foul trouble is for future games, then? Let me suggest to you that fouls don't carry over to other games, and that they'd rather have their best player at the end of the game than perhaps the most meaningless stretch of any given game (closing the first half).

It's ridiculously easy (emphasis on ridiculous) to use hindsight on this one. It's remarkable to use hindsight to suggest a bad strategy.
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I thought that the Michigan coach should have played burke more as well.
 
NUMBERICA said:
And if he heads into the second half with 3 fouls? Or 4? No matter what he did, the dice were being rolled.
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But see if you put on the bench then its like he has fouled out already anyway.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Are you suggesting that the reason players get pulled for foul trouble is for future games, then? Let me suggest to you that fouls don't carry over to other games, and that they'd rather have their best player at the end of the game than perhaps the most meaningless stretch of any given game (closing the first half).

It's ridiculously easy (emphasis on ridiculous) to use hindsight on this one. It's remarkable to use hindsight to suggest a bad strategy.
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I'd agree with this strategy in most games... but given that 1) this is a Championship game; 2) they haven't come across UL before, a team that plays zone as well as presses; 3) he could have told Burke to play cautiously.

Taking all that into consideration, I think it's a call they've got to make.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Are you suggesting that the reason players get pulled for foul trouble is for future games, then? Let me suggest to you that fouls don't carry over to other games, and that they'd rather have their best player at the end of the game than perhaps the most meaningless stretch of any given game (closing the first half).

It's ridiculously easy (emphasis on ridiculous) to use hindsight on this one. It's remarkable to use hindsight to suggest a bad strategy.
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I'd agree with this strategy in most games... but given that 1) this is a Championship game; 2) they haven't come across UL before, a team that plays zone as well as presses; 3) he could have told Burke to play cautiously.

Taking all that into consideration, I think it's a call they've got to make.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Jazz's ESPN mock draft:

#17 C J McCollum

Analysis: The Jazz have been in the market for a point guard for a while and had their sights set on both Jimmer Fredette and Damian Lillard in the last two drafts only to lose them both. I'm not sure if McCollum is a true point guard, but I'm also not sure the Jazz need one as both Gordon Hayward and Alec Burks can handle the ball. What they really want is another shooter, and McCollum shot 51 percent from 3-point range before going down with a season-ending foot injury. He's one of the most dynamic scorers in the draft and some scouts believe he could be this year's Lillard.

#21 Jeff Withey

Analysis: If the Jazz go small with their first pick, don't be surprised to see them go big with their second one. Al Jefferson will most likely leave over the summer and Derrick Favors would probably take over as the starting 5, but he'll need help. Withey isn't special on the offensive end, but he's a dominant shot blocker who stays out of foul trouble. They'll be able to find 15 minutes a night for him.
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I'd be fairly impressed if we pulled this off. That said, where was Adetokunbo in Ford's current mock?
 
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