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Good post
Following potential 2014 draftees
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Good post
Game6Conley
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his D rating is bad, 102.8, worse than Jabari's. offensively though he rates on par with Jabari and Randle.
Vonleh is a stud using this metric, he produced 113points per 100 possessions on offense and allows 91.7 points per 100 possessions on D
As pointed out earlier: I don't put too much emphasis into that metric alone. It's more of a stat that shows how successful the teamdefense is that the coach installed.
Embiid for example has a 90.9 DRtg. The 2nd best of Kansasians or whatever these folks are called is Tarik Black with 99.3
The things I interpret out of this are the following:
-Embiid is an elite rim protector and defender on the college level.
-Bill Self failed to keep his defense intact after Embiid went down(I know the numbers were better when Embiid still was healthy)
-For everyone else I don't see much seperation. So other than Embiid there was no standout defender who bailed out Self.
Game6Conley
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i dont mind O and D rating honestly. Anthony Davis is muuuuch better than any of the prospects the last 3 years in college, which i like, and seems legit. hes the gold standard for this metric for sure.
139 ORtg, 80.3 DRtg
139 ORtg, 80.3 DRtg
I'm not sure if that's a sincere compliment or sarcastic critic. Please resolve. I feel confused like Sheldon Cooper right now.
i dont mind O and D rating honestly. Anthony Davis is muuuuch better than any of the prospects the last 3 years in college, which i like, and seems legit. hes the gold standard for this metric for sure.
139 ORtg, 80.3 DRtg
That's a monstrous number. Anthony Davis is exactly that! I stated a couple weeks back that I think he'll be the 2nd best player in the league in 2 years and going after Kevin Durant with his overall complete game. Shame that his GM is Dell Demps.
On the bright entertainment side we'll have another #TheDecision in 6 years or some trade drama.
What I meant with the ratings is that ORtg only accounts for possessions in which the player was involved, and IMO it's the most useful stat to display the individual efficiency of a player's shooting possessions. Much better than PER and Offensive WS.
SojoDave
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This is interesting from Draftexpress regarding Doug McDerMott.
His true shooting percentage was 65% this season, third best among draft prospects (behind Stauskas and Embiid), but he carried a significantly heavier usage role than either, which makes his efficiency all the more impressive.
His true shooting percentage was 65% this season, third best among draft prospects (behind Stauskas and Embiid), but he carried a significantly heavier usage role than either, which makes his efficiency all the more impressive.
Neg train worthy.
Someone will want Exum enough for the Jazz to trade down if they land 6th. Gordon and an asset >>>>>>>>>>> Exum
SojoDave
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I'm afraid Nik Stauskas is the same way.
Concur.
So question for you armchair GMs and draft enthusiasts.
So if Utah drafts Exum what do you all do with the roster? Keep Burke as the starting PG, move Exum to the 2, have Burks as the backup SG and resign Hayward at the 3? Start Exum at PG, make Burke the backup and bring over Neto and let Garrett go?
So if Utah drafts Exum what do you all do with the roster? Keep Burke as the starting PG, move Exum to the 2, have Burks as the backup SG and resign Hayward at the 3? Start Exum at PG, make Burke the backup and bring over Neto and let Garrett go?
Doublea
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I'd rather start Exum at point guard, he creates a good mismatch there. Though I don't know what I would do with he rotations and stuff...
SojoDave
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Yes
orangello
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Exum start? I doubt he would start on this team. How long will it take him to adapt back to playing basketball (hasn't played competitively in some time)? How long will it take him to adapt to NBA basketball? Exum is going to be a project to some degree and I'm not sure his game is to a level where he can start.
Year 1:
Exum 6th man with 30 min a game. This is a winning program now, he'll have to earn his starting spot!
Active coaching during the games, put him in the best position to come in at the 4 minute mark and let him defend exclusively SG. You don't want him reading too many scouting reports year 1.
Burks has to defend PG when both share the floor. This way you ensure you can hold him accountable for his defense more. If he doesn't want to improve defensively when he's an on ball defender for the majority of the game he won't get a big payday.
Hayward has his extension, so you play him as SF majority of the game and you have in mind you want another defensive minded wing who can defend both wing positions either through the draft(2014 or 2015) or via FA or via trade.
Then you can decide what the value of Burks is w/o him being mad about being 6th man -> fair chance.
Then you have points of emphasis for all your guys and observe their progress and determine their real value.
For Burks it's defense, long range shooting, handle, driving to the middle.
Burke has to get consistent from 3, improve his defensive awareness and intensity. Also either bring his midrange step back / floater game to the next level in combo with improved passing. I won't kid myself to believe he's going to be able to finish around the hoop.
Hayward has to show how good a defender he is at the big wing spot. He has to rebuild his offensive efficiency again. Then depending on his price tag that's determined this summer he either has a positive value as playmaker, spot up shooter and capable willing defender.
If Kanter can't make the next step with his handles AND outside shot OR improve his defense significantly (I doubt he can) I'll trade him for either another big or a 6'7+ SF who can defend and add some valuable offense.
A lot will depend on the books. How much will Hayward get and can we fully utilize his skillset? What step forward can Burks do and what is the price the will result from that? Is Burke really going to be a valuable PG(I'm not convinced+his dad as an agent -> no likey!)
Then you simply go forward and choose.
Game6Conley
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How does Nik Stauskas compare to Klay Thompson ?
He doesn't, why?
Hantlers
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Not nearly as good of a shooter, better off the dribble, better creator, more athletic IMO, slightly better defender, better attitude.