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OK i want to place a slap bet with anyone that thinks Randle will play a SF in the NBA? ok maybe just a rep bet

I'll take a rep bet he plays SF for an NBA team.



But if he somehow ended up playing SF for the Jazz, a $15 donation payable through PayPal would be made in my name to the foundation of your choice.



Deal?
 
Those list of teams are all the more reason why we need to draft players who can play efficiently with pace. All of those teams are in our conference. For those like Hotnikkk who were trying to say we should become the grizzlies and play slow, look at their playoff success this year. The West is fast. If we want to compete, we need to get up and down that court as well.

Grizzlies would have won game 7 had Randolph been playing. There's absolutely no doubt about that.
 
You guys need to figure out more specifics to the bet. Like, Randle has to start a certain number of games at SF or something. Otherwise kkk will think he's won the bet if anyone ever experiments with Randle at SF for 5 minutes.
 
You guys need to figure out more specifics to the bet. Like, Randle has to start a certain number of games at SF or something. Otherwise kkk will think he's won the bet if anyone ever experiments with Randle at SF for 5 minutes.
Good point. I wouldn't have called Millsap a SF just because Corbin played him there for a few games two seasons ago.
 
I think Randle has just enough perimeter skills that a team my try to play him at the 3. I think the Cavs envisioned Bennett at the 3 last year when they took him #1 overall. I could see a team seeing Randle in a similar role. Although Bennett was a better shoots with range.
 
Am I the only one who thinks the Jazz wont have any trades on draft night? Their picks put them in perfect position to get a star(1-6), a role player(23) and a stash pick(34) which is perfect for a developing team like the Jazz. And our current guys haven't played enough together to know enough about their true value and wether we should include any of them in a trade.

No trades please Dennis. Next year's trade deadline is a different story.
 
A good article describing why Randle will likely fall on draft day:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2057928-will-julius-randle-be-destined-for-2014-nba-draft-day-slide

A writer for SBNation compares Randle's length to that of the starting PF's in the NBA:

In writing this article, I looked through the DraftExpress measurements database for the wingspans of every starting power forward in the NBA. It's not comprehensive, as I could only find data on 22 of the 30 starters, but the numbers are not encouraging.*Randle's 6'11 wingspan ranks dead last. The average is well over 7'0; even undersized 4s like Paul Millsap (7'1.5) and Brandon Bass (7'2.5) have an advantage.

Only three of the 22 I found have wingspans below 7'0: Blake Griffin (6'11.25), Kevin Love (6'11.25) and Thaddeus Young (6'11.5). That's quite the trio, but it's also a group that screams "survivorship bias." In other words: You have to be a really good player to survive as a short-armed power forward in the NBA.

NBA execs and scouts talk about Randle:

These guys believe that the league will ultimately draft the ferocious-rebounding-Randle anywhere from 4th to 9th in June’s draft should he decide to declare. I found it interesting however, that ONLY 3 of these 14 NBA-people say that they themselves would draft Randle in that 4-9 range. A majority of these guys like JR in the 10-14 range. What they’re saying about JR:

“While he’s a terrific rebounder, his defensive issues are frightening. Worst defensive big-man in the draft.

“How many times can a guy catch the ball at the top of the key, drive into 3-defenders and give it to the other team?”

“I question his feel for the game and basketball IQ.”


I find it really interesting that only 3 NBA PF's have a wingspan as short as Randle's, and yet, two of them are arguably the two best PF's in the game. But he doesn't have Griffin's athleticism (not even close), nor does he have Love's skill set (as a freshman Love averaged about 18ppg, 11rpg, 2apg in college and was shooting 36% from 3). He'll never have Griffin's athleticism, and while you could say "Well, he could develop K-Love type skills!", couldn't you then say that about anyone? Love is a special player. He's the outlier of un-athletic bigs who lack length.

I love his motor, fire, somewhat unique ability to attack in transition and so on. But Randle has some major holes in his stock.

**Nickkk, that's your que to come in and say these are all reasons he should play SF**
 
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I'll repost what I posted in the other thread. I think people are overvaluing what Randle can't do and undervaluing what he can do. I still see him getting picked in the 5 - 7 range.

I see Randle drawing double teams, drawing fouls and scoring with adequate efficiency, especially with NBA spacing. I think he could be phenomenal on a team like the Suns that spaces the floor and runs a lot. The issue is that he himself isn't going to space the floor or protect the rim, so some other big he plays with may need to be able to do both. He's going to have to be effective as a shooter and a driver out to 20 feet due to his limited length.

I agree that Vonleh looks more versatile as an inside-outside, 2-way player, but has there been a player with Randle's size, strength, motor and offensive skills that hasn't succeeded? I think Randle is closer to today's version of Blake Griffin (with less hops) than people are giving him credit for. Though the article doesn't mention it, Blake's wingspan measured at 6'11.25" (a quarter inch longer than Randle) and Blake's standing reach measured at 8'9" (a half inch shorter than Randle's).

Here are Randle's highlights from last year's Hoop Summit, and while it's really just an exhibition game, it shows how Randle can play in an up-tempo, open-floor type of game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybc5YxhNi-E
 
I don't think anyone is saying Randle won't succeed in the NBA, we're just saying he's never going to be a star.

I see him being a 16/9 type of guy. Or something along those lines.
 
Randle: Average size with small wingspan who relies on strength to overpower smaller players and is awful defensively. Sounds like a real winner in the NBA.
 
I'll repost what I posted in the other thread. I think people are overvaluing what Randle can't do and undervaluing what he can do. I still see him getting picked in the 5 - 7 range.

I see Randle drawing double teams, drawing fouls and scoring with adequate efficiency, especially with NBA spacing. I think he could be phenomenal on a team like the Suns that spaces the floor and runs a lot. The issue is that he himself isn't going to space the floor or protect the rim, so some other big he plays with may need to be able to do both. He's going to have to be effective as a shooter and a driver out to 20 feet due to his limited length.

I agree that Vonleh looks more versatile as an inside-outside, 2-way player, but has there been a player with Randle's size, strength, motor and offensive skills that hasn't succeeded? I think Randle is closer to today's version of Blake Griffin (with less hops) than people are giving him credit for. Though the article doesn't mention it, Blake's wingspan measured at 6'11.25" (a quarter inch longer than Randle) and Blake's standing reach measured at 8'9" (a half inch shorter than Randle's).

Here are Randle's highlights from last year's Hoop Summit, and while it's really just an exhibition game, it shows how Randle can play in an up-tempo, open-floor type of game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybc5YxhNi-E


Really? Cuz It looked like they lost by more than 10 points.
 
If Jazz pick 5-7, how do they not take Gordon? Fills need and he he just seems like a guy Jazz brass would fall in love with. All this talk about Randle seems like a waste of time.
 
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