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So to create no misunderstanding as I'm not familiar with the term "blue-chip" team and google suggested blue-chips are high profile recruits. But Kentucky is totally crowded by these prospects. So I guess google tricked me as it doesn't make any sense. And Kentucky has a long basketball tradition if I'm not mistaken. I find it hard to believe that Cal would have problems establishing a project that combines collegiate athletes and sure fire NBA prospects. Imo the reason why he has to rebuild every 2nd or 3rd year is because the "worst" player he recruits are borderline NBA players. And those will take their chances after a chip of course. Replace those with hungry "real" student athletes, who actually want to graduate and have a "smaller" pro career the next 10 years and I think he'd be way more successful. But that's of course a question of team philosophy. Maybe he is even more happy to overrecruit the top prospects to not let Smart/Sullinger situations happen more often as he seems to be genuinely more invested in his players than the organisation he represents.

With all due respect, he does. People have short memories. In the past decade Cal has a higher winning% than any other coach. Last year was the anomaly, not the norm.

Ever hear of Dominique Hawkins? Jon Hood? Derek Willis? Jared Polson? How about Brian Long??
These are all kids on next years team that will likely never play in the NBA but were recruited to be solid 4 year guys.
I think the real issue with Cal's rep is the media spin. He is so dominant in recruiting that there's no story... therefore a negative spin is put on it. Funny that he gets questioned for recruiting stables of one and dones but EVERY one of those players were being hotly pursued by Duke, UNC, Louisville, Kansas, UCLA... etc. Then the spin becomes these other teams are doing it 'the right way.'

LMAO!

Oh, and yes, a "blue-chip" prospect is what google said.. I meant to say "blue blood" programs... the perennial powerhouses.
 
With all due respect, he does. People have short memories. In the past decade Cal has a higher winning% than any other coach. Last year was the anomaly, not the norm.

Ever hear of Dominique Hawkins? Jon Hood? Derek Willis? Jared Polson? How about Brian Long??
These are all kids on next years team that will likely never play in the NBA but were recruited to be solid 4 year guys.
I think the real issue with Cal's rep is the media spin. He is so dominant in recruiting that there's no story... therefore a negative spin is put on it. Funny that he gets questioned for recruiting stables of one and dones but EVERY one of those players were being hotly pursued by Duke, UNC, Louisville, Kansas, UCLA... etc. Then the spin becomes these other teams are doing it 'the right way.'

LMAO!

Oh, and yes, a "blue-chip" prospect is what google said.. I meant to say "blue blood" programs... the perennial powerhouses.

Well I guess I learned something new. While I don't know anything about any of those, Polson's stats make him look like a rotation player w/o inclusion on the offensive end, Long and Hood look like practice guys. I was talking more about guys who have a real shot at a pro career, which it doesn't look like with those 3 who already spent multiple seasons there, Correct me if I'm wrong.
I guess that comes with the recruitment strat and maybe other programs are more desirable for players and their individual growth who plan to spend the full four years and tour Europe afterwards.
Was just a thought of mine to balance out rosters with a more continuous spectrum. I guess players like Harrow and Wiltjer would fit right in what I mean by this. And both have surrendered to the amount of incoming talent.
You being familiar with their players, was it WCS' and Poythress' plan to spend multiple years there or is this a result of not improving enough over the last year and risk of falling out of their desired draft slots?

Kentucky is among those blue-blood programs, am I right? What I found weird when checking out Duke is that they have a 9000 seat arena which is 100% sold out in a city region where 2 slightly "smaller" programs have 20k seat arenas... I guess that hurts that school revenue quite a bit.
 
Well I guess I learned something new. While I don't know anything about any of those, Polson's stats make him look like a rotation player w/o inclusion on the offensive end, Long and Hood look like practice guys. I was talking more about guys who have a real shot at a pro career, which it doesn't look like with those 3 who already spent multiple seasons there, Correct me if I'm wrong.
I guess that comes with the recruitment strat and maybe other programs are more desirable for players and their individual growth who plan to spend the full four years and tour Europe afterwards.
Was just a thought of mine to balance out rosters with a more continuous spectrum. I guess players like Harrow and Wiltjer would fit right in what I mean by this. And both have surrendered to the amount of incoming talent.
You being familiar with their players, was it WCS' and Poythress' plan to spend multiple years there or is this a result of not improving enough over the last year and risk of falling out of their desired draft slots?

Kentucky is among those blue-blood programs, am I right? What I found weird when checking out Duke is that they have a 9000 seat arena which is 100% sold out in a city region where 2 slightly "smaller" programs have 20k seat arenas... I guess that hurts that school revenue quite a bit.

Kentucky has won more games than any other college team.
Has also won the highest % of games.
2nd to UCLA in chips.. and these two are far ahead the pack
Yes. A blue-blood.

WCS was recruitee as a multi-year player as was Wiltjer.. and neither went pro. Poythress was supposed to be a one and done but didn't get it done so we have him back... and that's the plan. Recruit 7 guys every year that are future pros and get two or three back each year.... unless you win a chip.
 
Here are some Archie Goodwin highlights from Summer League. I know Gobert was a great pick, but Goodwin would have also been an excellent pick at #27.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SwNxuSQ_L6Y


I hope Burks plays this aggressively.
 
When Burks is not playing PG, he is pretty damn fearless. People forget how good he was in his rookie season it seems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1Lv6mAejSY
 
Not necessarily true. I think it more goes like this;

It takes a couple years in order to have a couple guys stay (duh.. can't have that in year one).
Then in his 3rd year he won a championship.. I can see a mass exodus each time that happens and it starts things back over again.

Last year we returned less than 9% of the total points, rebounds, and assists from the championship team. This year we bring in another great class and are returning 1/3 of the scoring etc. from last year. Again, if we win the championship again this year you will likely see everyone leave and next year is another freshman-only team.

Calipari is okay with this. He wants to rack up the best possible recruiting class and keep one or two to add to the next year's team.. knowing he will likely have a down year after each championship. Flawed? Sure, but it's also impossible to replicate. Most blue-chip teams can do what you suggested and they can be pretty consistently top 10 teams.. but rarely will be favored to win it all, at worst, every three years.

The year they won the Chip they had Miller, who was a pretty good 4-year veteran. Who do they have in the future that is going to be that guy on future teams? No one. That is what they will have the biggest problem replacing each year.
 
Here are some Archie Goodwin highlights from Summer League. I know Gobert was a great pick, but Goodwin would have also been an excellent pick at #27.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SwNxuSQ_L6Y


I hope Burks plays this aggressively.


Shooting 78% from deep over 5 games screams flukey to me when he couldn't even hit 30% from college.
 
The year they won the Chip they had Miller, who was a pretty good 4-year veteran. Who do they have in the future that is going to be that guy on future teams? No one. That is what they will have the biggest problem replacing each year.

I'm going really easy on you guys because you're not versed in Kentucky .. but some (not Cy) are sincerely curious.. and I will address their questions....
 
Shooting 78% from deep over 5 games screams flukey to me when he couldn't even hit 30% from college.

Obviously. He started the season (like first 8 games or so, shooting 50+.. then fell apart. Not sure whether all that is good (has the ability) or bad (mentally weak).
 
Not saying where these write ups came from.. cuz I don't know....

Andrew Harrison

Part 1: Who he is, how he's gotten here

Dave Telep:*The high school career of Andrew Harrison was riddled with strong performances from a player who was more of a point guard caricature then he was human. At 6-foot-5 and 210 pounds, Harrison had the body of an NBA point guard, not a high school one.Harrison's game at the point is predicated on two things: size and a wrecking-ball mentality. His game is not complete, as he's yet to harness all aspects of it, which is quite scary to think about. He could be really good once he puts it all together.[+] EnlargeKelly Kline/Getty ImagesAndrew Harrison will play alongside his twin brother, Aaron, at Kentucky.Off the dribble, this kid is a complete load. He was an intimidating presence on the floor, and there were times when it was fair to say that opponents approached him with a measure of fear. Harrison is just too big and strong for most opponents, and getting all the way to the rim, because of his physicality, was not difficult. At the rim, he was akin to a heat-seeking missile looking for something to run into.As a shooter, his twin brother Aaron trumped him in range, but his accuracy was similar. His pull-up game is on par with the better players in his class. When he wished to transition to passer, Harrison threw pinpoint alley-oops. Defensively, he could do what he wanted but was rarely challenged, and while we know his capabilities, this remains an area that he needs to address with consistency.Harrison also needs to address his approach on the floor. He's yet to prove he can be a consistent setup man. We've seen flashes of it, but things need to be adjusted in order to keep talented players around him happy. He's prone to getting frustrated with officials and other players and needs to address that approach. He's such a menacing figure on the floor, but gregarious and smiling off it, that sometimes peers aren't sure how to take him. The knock has been that he hasn't always approached practice and team settings with the right mindset.This is a jumbo college point guard with exceptional natural ability. As good as he was in high school, he's capable of being better, of doing little things consistently, of expanding his approach as a leader, of becoming a dominant force for a team laced with first-round draft picks.

Part 2: How he fits his college team

Jeff Goodman:*John Calipari has coached*Derrick Rose,*John Wall,Tyreke Evans,*Marquis Teagueand*Brandon Knight*-- all terrific point guards who are playing in the NBA.Andrew Harrison*will be Calipari's next star floor leader. However, he's different from his Calipari-coached predecessors. At 6-foot-5, Harrison has the size that nearly all the others lacked (except for Evans), and he also possesses the ability to make those around him better.But that will be the key.Can Harrison become a team-first guy and a leader for this season's inexperienced Kentucky team? The knock on him, at times, is his desire to dominate the ball and the game with his ability to score.He'll have the ball in his hands the majority of the time, and will have no shortage of weapons at his disposal. The front line will have fellow potential lottery picksJulius Randle*and*Willie Cauley-Stein;*the backcourt will feature Harrison's twin brother, Aaron. He'll have one of the most talented wings in the nation in freshman*James Young.Harrison will have to put his teammates first and pick his spots. He's certainly capable of doing so, but the question is whether he can buy into the fact that assists are as important as scoring points.Harrison is big, strong and tough. He will thrive in transition, pushing the ball and attacking the basket. He'll need to show that he can make shots from the perimeter on a consistent basis, or else defenders will go under screens. But he's exceptionally talented due to a rare combination of size, strength, speed and toughness.He'll likely be the key for this Kentucky team. As previously noted, he'll have just about everything he needs to be successful. But he'll have plenty on his plate, similar to whatMichael Carter-Williams*did a year ago with Syracuse. He'll have to balance scoring, passing and also may be forced to take the primary leadership duties on a young squad.Harrison could wind up becoming one of the top point guards that Calipari has ever coached -- in similar company to John Wall. He possesses that type of high-level talent. But the skeptics are concerned with the intangibles, the mental approach to the game, the leadership qualities and ability to put others, except for his twin brother, first. If he does all that, there's no reason Kentucky won't have an opportunity to win another national title.

Part 3: How he projects to the NBA

Fran Fraschilla:*Andrew Harrison likely will compete with Oklahoma State's*Marcus Smart*to be the first point guard chosen in next June's NBA Draft. Given that the two Texans are similarly sized and similarly built, it should make for an interesting battle.At 6-foot-5, Harrison has more than ideal NBA point guard size. In addition, he is strong with the ball and loves to punish defenders with his driving ability, especially going to his left hand. In the Nike Hoop Summit, he got to the line 12 times, primarily defended by two first-round picks from the 2013 NBA draft, Sergey Karasev and Dennis Schroeder.Harrison's passing instincts are good and his court awareness should improve under Calipari. He sees the court well, and because of that, should develop into a very good pick-and-roll initiator. Considering Calipari's recent history with point guards, I'd expect to see Harrison flourish throughout the season.Harrison is not without question marks as a future NBA player. His jump shot is inconsistent, something that is not a surprise for a player who has relied more on getting to the basket off the dribble in his career. For every Steph Curry who comes into the NBA as a point guard with a great shooting touch, three more arrive without it.However, the 800-pound gorilla in the room with Harrison (and his twin brother Aaron) among NBA personnel folks is his attitude and body language. Although he played well at the Nike Hoop Summit, many NBA decision-makers watched him for the first time and came away with questions about his coachability.Fortunately for Harrison, he will get a chance to dispel any questions about his behavior during his (likely) one season at Kentucky. Everything he does as a Wildcat will be closely scrutinized anyway. If there are few issues, Harrison's talent should make him a top-5 selection next June.
 
Julius Randle

Part 1: Who he is, how he's gotten here

[+] EnlargeJonathan Daniel/Getty ImagesJulius Randle had 11 points and 7 rebounds in the 2013 McDonald's All American game.Dave Telep:*As a high school senior, Randle broke the fifth metatarsal bone in his right foot and missed most of his senior season. He returned to lead his team to the state championship and in time for the postseason all-star games. Outside of the injury, there was no way to slow down high school basketball's version of a runaway freight train.Randle's game is a combination of power, athleticism and determination in the paint. When he's motoring inside, the lefty's game is about going in straight lines, and taking the shortest and quickest route to the basket is preferable. He can catch on the blocks but prefers to face and attack. He's not one to shy from contact and has been prone to committing charges. One of the areas for improvement is that he'll need to learn when to slow down because he tends to catch and get quickly into his move without reading the defense. He could use a pull-up midrange jumper.As a perimeter player, Randle is prone to flattening out his shot. However, he's a legitimate threat and has proved himself to be a good passer from the high post. More than anything, Randle is a power forward who relishes scoring and assumes the alpha dog responsibilities for his team. Comfortable shouldering the load, he sees himself as the team's primary scorer and rebounder.A hallmark of Randle's game is his consistent motor. Regardless of the result, Randle is a proven commodity in terms of effort. He does not take games off and holds himself accountable when he doesn't meet his own standards. He was mentored by former Oklahoma standout Jeff Webster.

Part 2: How he fits his college team

Jeff Goodman:*A well-built, 6-foot-9, 240-pound power forward, Randle can be a dominant force for John Calipari at Kentucky next season -- when he wants to be.Randle does have versatility, but he's a load down on the blocks, and, if Calipari is able to convince him that few can stop him in the paint (and limit his time roaming the perimeter, as he has a tendency to do), he could wind up being Kentucky's most dominant and productive player. In fact, he could wind up becoming one of the most productive players in the country despite the fact he'll be on a loaded team with as many as seven other potential first-round draft picks. There are those who have criticized Randle for taking plays off, not playing as hard as he did a couple of seasons ago, but he still has a high motor the majority of the time. I think he'll thrive in Calipari's system.The Wildcats have a ton of talent heading into the 2013-14 season, but there are also questions for this team. Who will start in the middle between*Willie Cauley-Stein*and*Dakari Johnson? Who will play on the wing between*James Young*and*Aaron Harrison? Will*Andrew Harrison*be able to keep everyone content from the point guard spot? However, one of the questions won't be "Who will get the majority of the time at power forward?" That'll be Randle.Look for him to be a force on the glass with his size, strength and athleticism, and to lead UK in rebounding. He'll be able to score in the post and step out a bit as well as to finish with authority in transition. Randle is also an effective player on the defensive end with good lateral quickness and strength.Don't be surprised if Randle quickly emerges as UK's most productive player -- and its leader.

Part 3: How he projects to the NBA

Fran Fraschilla:*If there is one player in the country who could make a run at Andrew Wiggins as the first pick in the 2014 NBA draft, it's Randle.At 6-9 and nearly 250 pounds, Randle has the physical gifts that scream "future NBA All-Star." He has a prototype NBA power forward body, in addition to above-average NBA athleticism at that position. And as a bonus, he plays with the requisite intensity to match those gifts.Randle plays with an attacking mentality, around the basket and in the open court. He loves to handle the basketball, which comes in handy as a "rip and run" big man on the defensive glass. He actually has an excellent feel for passing on the break.In the half court, Randle, a predominantly left-handed player, is best right now when he posts up off the lane and uses his quickness and agility to get to the basket. He also has a reasonably good shooting touch in the midrange, although he hasn't needed it to this point in his career.Where Randle can improve is in his low-post game. His overwhelming athletic ability has carried him to this point in his career, and he's been an effective low-post scorer as a result, but he'll need to improve his skills in this area as he begins what is likely to be his one-and-done season in Lexington.Because of Randle's versatility, he also has a tendency to play the game from the outside in at times, instead of from the inside out. He wants to show off the perimeter skills that are uncommon for a player his size. Those strengths likely will be put to good use by an NBA coach who will isolate him in different areas of the floor but likely won't be used as much at Kentucky.Ultimately, however, Randle will want to punish NBA opponents with his incredible combination of size, strength and quickness around the basket. One thing to remember: He is just a baby right now, and won't turn 19 until late November. Just wait until he grows up.
 
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