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Following potential 2014 draftees

Core4 said:
Think he'll still be on the board when the GS pick comes up?
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With Iggy out indefinately, Curry on and off with various minor injuries and Toney Douglas out I see them losing a couple games in the next month. That will probably hurt them a little. THough the boredom called underwhelming east is making it possible that a 8th best West record is 10th best in the league ^^

Core4 said:
I think someone like Vonleh would be a great pick in that range. The draft is so deep that there will be quite a few players dropping or moving up. Lindsey showed us with Gobert and Neto that he has an eye for the intermediate talent. Let's hope he makes a Gobert-esque find in 2014.
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I'll have to watch some Indiana I think. I liked his highschool stuff a lot. Not superstar a lot, but impact player lot.
And Gobert wasn't a intermediate find. During most of last year Gobert was a top5 pick on DX with Cody leading the pack. So if anything his stock fell as indicated in his interviews that he bumped heads with his coach in France who didn't let him groom.

darthlarryboy said:
From DraftExpress Mock 13-25. If I had my pick and since I would have to trade up to get McDermott, I'd go after Saric at 13. Realistically from 18-22, I'm picking Young. At this point anyway.

13 Dario Saric SF
19 years old; 6'10"; 223 lbs.
14 Doug McDermott PF
21 years old; 6'8"; 223 lbs.
15 Andrew Harrison PG
19 years old; 6'5"; 207 lbs.
16 Adreian Payne PF/C
22 years old; 6'9"; 215 lbs.
17 Isaiah Austin C
20 years old; 7'1"; 220 lbs.
18 Mitch McGary C
21 years old; 6'10"; 263 lbs.
19 James Young SF
18 years old; 6'7"; 202 lbs.
20 Jahii Carson PG
21 years old; 5'11"; 167 lbs.
21 Spencer Dinwiddie SG
20 years old; 6'6"; 200 lbs.
22 James McAdoo PF
20 years old; 6'9"; 226 lbs.
23 T.J. Warren SF
20 years old; 6'8"; 230 lbs.
24 Semaj Christon PG
21 years old; 6'3"; 187 lbs.
25 Sam Dekker SF
19 years old; 6'7"; 200 lbs.
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I wouldn't take a mock before mid december serious in any way.

Jazzfan0124 said:
James Young at 19.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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They say themselves that they are incomplete. Just wait a couple weeks and you'll get a more accurate one.
 
Andrew won't fall that far. This team is starting 5 freshman and Cal's PGs always have a very steep learning curve and start slow. All of them... and none have ever had to start with an all-frosh team.

I'm not certain what Andrew is or isn't yet (as for projecting) but I am certain his best days of the season are ahead.
Young is who I'm watching.. not sure what his draft stock will do, but I'm seeing a top8/9 player right now... thankfully somewhat hidden by having to share the ball a lot.
 
PKM said:
Andrew won't fall that far. This team is starting 5 freshman and Cal's PGs always have a very steep learning curve and start slow. All of them... and none have ever had to start with an all-frosh team.

I'm not certain what Andrew is or isn't yet (as for projecting) but I am certain his best days of the season are ahead.
Young is who I'm watching.. not sure what his draft stock will do, but I'm seeing a top8/9 player right now... thankfully somewhat hidden by having to share the ball a lot.
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There is a good chance the GSW pick with be in the teens if the injurys keep biting them.

Been loving Young all a long but i agree top 10 for sure
 
darthlarryboy said:
From DraftExpress Mock 13-25. If I had my pick and since I would have to trade up to get McDermott, I'd go after Saric at 13. Realistically from 18-22, I'm picking Young. At this point anyway.

13 Dario Saric SF
19 years old; 6'10"; 223 lbs.
14 Doug McDermott PF
21 years old; 6'8"; 223 lbs.
15 Andrew Harrison PG
19 years old; 6'5"; 207 lbs.
16 Adreian Payne PF/C
22 years old; 6'9"; 215 lbs.
17 Isaiah Austin C
20 years old; 7'1"; 220 lbs.
18 Mitch McGary C
21 years old; 6'10"; 263 lbs.
19 James Young SF
18 years old; 6'7"; 202 lbs.
20 Jahii Carson PG
21 years old; 5'11"; 167 lbs.
21 Spencer Dinwiddie SG
20 years old; 6'6"; 200 lbs.
22 James McAdoo PF
20 years old; 6'9"; 226 lbs.
23 T.J. Warren SF
20 years old; 6'8"; 230 lbs.
24 Semaj Christon PG
21 years old; 6'3"; 187 lbs.
25 Sam Dekker SF
19 years old; 6'7"; 200 lbs.
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If Young is available at 19 and the Jazz don't use their GS pick on him I will freak'n screaaamm!!!!!!!!! I really think the Jazz are going to get a star and a very good player out of this draft. I would be fine with McDermott between 18 and 22. From all accounts he was a surprise at the NBA Olympic practices. It is painfully obvious that the Jazz need shooters.
 
spycam1 said:
I'm loving Embiid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lgI-8np7w
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All of a sudden the 4th pick not looking all that bad.
PKM said:
Andrew won't fall that far. This team is starting 5 freshman and Cal's PGs always have a very steep learning curve and start slow. All of them... and none have ever had to start with an all-frosh team.

I'm not certain what Andrew is or isn't yet (as for projecting) but I am certain his best days of the season are ahead.
Young is who I'm watching.. not sure what his draft stock will do, but I'm seeing a top8/9 player right now... thankfully somewhat hidden by having to share the ball a lot.
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I love Andrews potential. Part of me wants the jazz to draft Embiid and trade Kanter and gs to get Harrison. Embiid and Favors front line would be scary good and unfair to the rest of the league. I'm not sold on Burke as our starting pg. love Andrews size and potential.

Harrison
Burks
Hayward
Favors
Embiid

That looks like a scary good lineup in a couple years. Thoughts...

At the same time though. Remember I said part of me wants to trade Kanter, not all of me:)
Jako said:
maybe he will fall to the GSW pick
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I'd sell my soul if this could happen.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
All of a sudden the 4th pick not looking all that bad.

I love Andrews potential. Part of me wants the jazz to draft Embiid and trade Kanter and gs to get Harrison. Embiid and Favors front line would be scary good and unfair to the rest of the league. I'm not sold on Burke as our starting pg. love Andrews size and potential.

Harrison
Burks
Hayward
Favors
Embiid

That looks like a scary good lineup in a couple years. Thoughts...

At the same time though. Remember I said part of me wants to trade Kanter, not all of me:)


I'd sell my soul if this could happen.
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Good Sir, I must respectfully disagree. I would much rather have a sure thing such as Parker or Randle than Imbiid. Plus, I think eventually Kanter and Favors could get to the point where they would be good together. I would however be fine with trading any asset we have except for Favors and maybe Hayward if it meant we could get another top 6 or 7 pick.
 
Batman said:
Good Sir, I must respectfully disagree. I would much rather have a sure thing such as Parker or Randle than Imbiid. Plus, I think eventually Kanter and Favors could get to the point where they would be good together. I would however be fine with trading any asset we have except for Favors and maybe Hayward if it meant we could get another top 6 or 7 pick.
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Don't call me good sir!! I'm not your good sir. I can see Embiid play himself into the top three or four discussion.
 
Big men always move up come draft day. I think this reality is good for the Jazz chances at moving up to get another nice wing/pg piece. I get where Batman is coming from, I want a top 3 soooooooo badly I might cry if we don't get one.
 
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Thee jazz fan said:
Don't call me good sir!! I'm not your good sir. I can see Embiid play himself into the top three or four discussion.
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You got a thick skin my man, but that's cool. You make a valid point, but personally I just can't see Embiid getting into the top 3 discussion. I'm thinking the top 2 tiers are pretty distinct and I can't see Imbiid getting into that first tier, but of course i could be wrong.

First Tier:
Parker
Randle
Wiggins

Second Tier:
Embiid
Smart
Exum

of course, Exum could very easily be in that top tier. I think it depends on who you ask. But if we are talking about being the #1 pick, I think it is a 3 way battle between Wiggins, Parker and Randle. I Think these guys in the 2nd tier could be a number #1 pick but they are big time long shots, and thus, by default, less likely to be in the top 3 than Randle, Parker, and Wiggins.
 
PKM said:
Also.. TJF said "suddenly the fourth pick not looking so bad." I never saw where he said Embiid was a better pick than Parker. C'mon, Batman, get your head out of your bat cave.
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I was just commenting on when he said part of him wants to draft Embiid and pair him with Favors. my inclination is that Wiggins, Parker or Randle could be considered 100% go get em's
 
Batman said:
I was just commenting on when he said part of him wants to draft Embiid and pair him with Favors. my inclination is that Wiggins, Parker or Randle could be considered 100% go get em's
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Good hell!! Where did I say I'd take Embiid over any one of those three?

Let me say this in a way even you would understand!

I. View. Embiid. As. The. 4th. Best. Player. In. The. Draft.....

Part of me hopes Embiid stays at Kansas and works on his game. He'd probably be the top pick in 15. The nba just lacks great centers in the league.

This is of course assuming we land a top three pick, but I deffinetly take him with the 4th pick, unless things really pick up for Andrew Harrison, then I'd have a hard time choosing.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Good hell!! Where did I say I'd take Embiid over any one of those three?

Let me say this in a way even you would understand!

I. View. Embiid. As. The. 4th. Best. Player. In. The. Draft.....

Part of me hopes Embiid stays at Kansas and works on his game. He'd probably be the top pick in 15. The nba just lacks great centers in the league.

This is of course assuming we land a top three pick, but I deffinetly take him with the 4th pick, unless things really pick up for Andrew Harrison, then I'd have a hard time choosing.
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Forgive me for the misunderstanding. When i read the initial post, I missed the part under the video that said "suddenly the 4th pick is not looking so bad" which, when prefacing your latter comments with it, adds elucidation regarding your statement that part of you wants to draft Embiid. I hear you.

I am surprised at your settled position regarding Embiid as the 4th best prospect, solely because of Exum. The Hype is great regarding that one (Exum) and would lead me to believe he's going to be a stud. Can certainly understand why you would prefer him over Smart though.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Good hell!! Where did I say I'd take Embiid over any one of those three?

Let me say this in a way even you would understand!

I. View. Embiid. As. The. 4th. Best. Player. In. The. Draft.....

Part of me hopes Embiid stays at Kansas and works on his game. He'd probably be the top pick in 15. The nba just lacks great centers in the league.

This is of course assuming we land a top three pick, but I deffinetly take him with the 4th pick, unless things really pick up for Andrew Harrison, then I'd have a hard time choosing.
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Good sir, I must respectfully disagree. Embiid is not, in my view, the best player in the draft.

jk
 
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