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Just Sign Al Farouq Aminu instead of using a draft pick on Gordon. Similar players, similar strengths and weaknesses

Gordon's Freshman #'s 30.9mpg 12.1ppg .481fg% .308 3pt% .435 ft% 7.8reb 1.8apg 0.9bpg 0.9stl
Aminu's Freshman #'s 29.0mpg 12.9ppg .516fg% .179 3pt% .671 ft% 8.2reb 1.5apg 1.2bpg 1.0stl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK1o5Vs7AFk
 
FWIW, Kawhi Leonard wasn't much of a shooter in college, and now he's passable. I'm too lazy to look up his college stats though.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/kawhi-leonard-1.html

You know there's this browser called "chrome". You can type 'kawhi leonard sports reference' into the address line and google will display you his sports reference profile first.

He btw was a 73% and 76% free throw shooter. Threes were 20 and 29%.

The Jazz have stated repeatedly that they do not want to develop a culture of losing. Drafting a project, like Gordon, would be exactly the opposite of what the Jazz have stated their objective to be. We don't need another player to take 3-4 years to find out whether he's a bust or not. While I have no doubt another year or two would do Gordon wonders, I really have serious concerns over his position and FT shooting. It is extremely rare for a player to go from 41 percent to 70-80 percent.

One of the rare occasions that I agree with Thriller.

Gordon can contribute to a team right now, maybe not as a starter, but he would make your team better. Just have to use him right. Being a bad FT shooter only really hurts your team if you are playing in crunch time. It can actually help to start quarters off becasue the opponent will be more inclined to put you in the penalty earlier.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kiddgmi01.html

I beg to differ. MKG can't contribute. I don't think that Gordon can contribute right away. And MKG at least hits some of his free throws which enables him to pick up contact.
Just show me a single player in the history of the game who developed a shot in a way that his free throw shooting went up by 30% on at least 4 attempts per night.

Just Sign Al Farouq Aminu instead of using a draft pick on Gordon. Similar players, similar strengths and weaknesses

Gordon's Freshman #'s 30.9mpg 12.1ppg .481fg% .308 3pt% .435 ft% 7.8reb 1.8apg 0.9bpg 0.9stl
Aminu's Freshman #'s 29.0mpg 12.9ppg .516fg% .179 3pt% .671 ft% 8.2reb 1.5apg 1.2bpg 1.0stl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK1o5Vs7AFk


Aminu can hit free throws. Big difference. Free throws are muscle memory. I feel bad for Gordon lovers.
 
I could see us ending up with the 3rd pick. Will we be able to entice someone to move up is the question?

I'll give them any player minus Burke + a future first.

Go big or go home.
 
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/kawhi-leonard-1.html

You know there's this browser called "chrome". You can type 'kawhi leonard sports reference' into the address line and google will display you his sports reference profile first.

He btw was a 73% and 76% free throw shooter. Threes were 20 and 29%.



One of the rare occasions that I agree with Thriller.



https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kiddgmi01.html

I beg to differ. MKG can't contribute. I don't think that Gordon can contribute right away. And MKG at least hits some of his free throws which enables him to pick up contact.
Just show me a single player in the history of the game who developed a shot in a way that his free throw shooting went up by 30% on at least 4 attempts per night.



Aminu can hit free throws. Big difference. Free throws are muscle memory. I feel bad for Gordon lovers.

Chris Webber was close to a 30% improvement from his worst year in college (50%) to his best year in the pro's (79%).

Karl Malone's worst year was 48% and his best year was 79%.

Most people with the really low percentages are players with awful form who have no hope of really improving their shot, that isn't Gordon.
 
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/kawhi-leonard-1.html

You know there's this browser called "chrome". You can type 'kawhi leonard sports reference' into the address line and google will display you his sports reference profile first.

He btw was a 73% and 76% free throw shooter. Threes were 20 and 29%.



One of the rare occasions that I agree with Thriller.



https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kiddgmi01.html

I beg to differ. MKG can't contribute. I don't think that Gordon can contribute right away. And MKG at least hits some of his free throws which enables him to pick up contact.
Just show me a single player in the history of the game who developed a shot in a way that his free throw shooting went up by 30% on at least 4 attempts per night.



Aminu can hit free throws. Big difference. Free throws are muscle memory. I feel bad for Gordon lovers.

MKG plays in a extremely slow offense and plays on a team that doesn't fit him at all. He is probably on the worst team for his game right now. If you put Gordon next to a SG who can't shoot 3's, Josh McRoberts, and Al Jefferson, he would bust and suck too probably.
 
Think it's funny how much people harp about wanting to have a better defensive team, but when it comes time to add an elite defensive talent people are shy.

Not advocating taking this guy over Parker/Embiid/Wiggins/Exum, but after those 4 he has the most potential to be a game changer.

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I could see us ending up with the 3rd pick. Will we be able to entice someone to move up is the question?

I'll give them any player minus Burke + a future first.

Go big or go home.

3 is awesome. If Wiggins and Parker are gone you draft Exum.

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Chris Webber was close to a 30% improvement from his worst year in college (50%) to his best year in the pro's (79%).

Karl Malone's worst year was 48% and his best year was 79%.

Most people with the really low percentages are players with awful form who have no hope of really improving their shot, that isn't Gordon.

So I checked Karl's numbers.
College:
1st year: 62% on 8.7 attempts in 32 min/game
2nd year: 68% on 7.4 attempts in 31.6min
3rd year: 54% on 5.3 attempts in 29 min
NBA: 74% over his career
Rookie: 48% on 5 trys in 30.6 min
Soph: 60% on 6.6 attempts in 34.8min

So we're having a player who has 2 down years but before that he wasn't a horrible free throw shooter.
So I don't know too much about Karl.

-Did he have an injury his senior season?
-Did he reconstruct his shooting form?

Some remarks: It's very rare that rooks play that many minutes and fatigue may be a factor in his rookie season slump until he getts his conditioning right the following years.


Chris Webber had some huge changes in free throw shooting as a gradual improvement process early in his career but has shown huge fluctuation even after he had reached good numbers.
Which leaves to wonder:
-Did Webber had mental problems that prevented him from performing from the free throw line
-Was he simply lazy and some summers he didn't spend enough time on free throw shooting

Webber also never was such a huge offensive player when you see his numbers. Below avg accuracy and yet took a lot of attempts. There just wasn't enough analytics to trash talk him like Josh Smith is getting nowadays.

And I could start now to find players who never improved their free throw shooting. I'm just not banking on him to do it because the numbers indicate that's a dumb expectation. And if he can't do it he'll get stopped around the rim with hard fouls that are flagrant-1 hard but get called regular because the player is going for the ball. And that will increase the chance of him getting hurt or missing time. Plain and simple.
 
Other than Tyler Ennis and Marcus Smart, Aaron Gordon is the only player with a positive Assist:Turnover ratio in the projected lottery by Draftexpress.
 
For me...

Tier 1 is Wiggins, Parker
Tier 2 is Exum, Embiid
Tier 3 is Smart, Vonleh
Tier 4 is Gordon, Randle, Harris, Hood, McDermott

Tier 1 would make me nearly soil myself.
Tier 2, I would be excited
Tier 3, I would feel a little letdown but that we got a decent concession prize despite high expectations
Tier 4, would be blah . . . solid rotation player but not a superstar . . . borderline starter on a good team
 
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