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Following potential 2014 draftees

LazyD said:
I think it helps the NBA because they can develop the players for longer. Sure, most of the top picks aren't as skilled as they would be if players had to stay in school longer, but they're also 2-3 years younger.

I am one who believes that players have more opportunity to develop skills when basketball is their job as opposed to when they are in school. People wanting to require more school are more concerned about maturity level than oncourt product. Some kids can handle leaving early better than others. It would be unfair to take away the opportunity for kids looking to take advantage of the professional league just because some people make bad decisions.

But, of course, this is going to be the way it is because that's how the nation works for the most part. Don't hold people accountable and encourage them to make better decisions. Instead, let's try to eliminate all possibilities of failure at the expense of others.
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Yeah I also don't like the NBA's approach. I mean I understand one and done / succeed and proceed. Because it's close to impossible scouting high school games at a high quality. I think 1 year aka 30-40 games should give the teams plenty time to make an educated decision about a player they want to pick.

If the NCAA wouldn't bully their athletes that much and give them time in April and May to attend early workouts with teams before they have to decide whether to return to school that would be totally fine. A lot of not yet ready to make the jump prospects would be given the opportunity to return and develop further with quality playing time in college and others would be reassured in their decision.

If they make a two and through rule I hope they'll also make one NBA owned D-League team that only sports underclassmen and has some superb player development coaches and stuff. They would develop the talents that decide not to attend college and declare after 1 year of D-League or more. Just to make things fair. I feel the two year rule would put way too much power into the hands of the NCAA and to me that's like giving North Korea weapons of mass destruction.

Hantlers said:
Stausakas I agree with because he can create his own shot and has the capability to play defense.

I don't agree with McDermott, because he hasn't shown the ability to create his own shot against good opponents, and he absolutely cannot play defense. I most certainly think he can play a role, possibly similar to Kyle Korver (I'm not comparing them as players, just the role they play), but I feel that he's more of a liability on defense than an asset on offense. IMO, you don't take that type of player in the lottery.
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I didn't watch too much Michigan but vibe I got from newswriters was that NBA executives were concerned about Stauskas upside on the defensive end.

So I'm surprised to see you write this.

Hotttnickkk said:
^^^

BTW I know it's a different game, but the NZ Breakers - the local basketball team here in NZ, won the NBL Australian Championship three years in a roll on the back of Kirk Penny and CJ Bruton, both of whom are knock-down 3pt shooters with defensive limitations.


Sometimes it helps when you have guys who can just flat out "shoot".
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I remember Kirk Penney. He played in Berlin for a year or two. Was kinda disappointed though how he was unable to match other players speed and athleticism on both ends.

Catchall said:
My own opinion is that this is simply a business decision that clearly favors the franchise owners. It's so that owners and GMs can make more informed draft/investment decisions on players, and rely less on advanced scouting.

The draft system is supposed to favor the weaker teams that need to improve in order to win fan support ($$$). However, if a player is too early in his development, then GMs and owners may feel that they don't have enough information to base their drafting decisions, and they risk wasting years and millions of dollars on the wrong player. See Bennett, Anthony; Oden, Greg; and Robinson, Thomas; etc.

Some people would say that's part of the sport--with the draft being an inexact science. Owners are saying, "**** you, and your inexact science."
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Agree with the most part. But Greg Oden was bad luck that could happen to anyone. Maybe he was more predestined to have such an injury with his body, but then how was Shaq who didn't like practice able to stay away from injuries?
T-Rob also was a junior so how much time would GMs need to evaluate him?

-> I think it's a good perception of the situation paired with horrible examples :P

dalamon said:
Tell me, posters of Jazzfanz: Is there a Jimmy Butler in this draft?

Utah needs a Jimmy Butler with their GS pick. Pls pls pls lets try and find ourselves a good 3andD. I'll even take a Jae Crowder FFS.
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Would look less for stats but more for dedication and personality to find such a player. Which is probably why most posters can't give you a good hint who that might be because they're not familiar with the background of individual players unless they're playing for their school.
 
I've mentioned McDaniels a few times on the last few weeks as a guy who has a high ceiling in the later first. He's mega athletic, can score in multiple ways (I love guys with high FT % too) and seems to be a solid defender. He just doesn't have unreal size and was slower to develop.

I like him.
 
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Catchall said:
I actually think McDermott will get by on defense against the other team's weaker forward. He'll get a few rebounds too. I think he's an automatic floor spacer and a good mid-range shooter if he gets chased off the 3pt line. He's worth having. Guys in the league like Dirk and Steph Curry or even Carmello aren't in the league for their defense. If it's really a problem, then sure take him out and put in a guy like Marvin Williams for whatever matchup is needed. Run him off a pick and he's sure to pull an extra defender out of position. Being able to do that out on the floor at his size, is a real plus.
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Best think about McD is that he does understand team defense, that will help him get by on a good defensive team, like the Bulls.

Jimmer sucks at D from a physical and mental standpoint, McD can get by cuz of his brain and effort.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Looks slow as molasses. You pick McDaniels 7 days a week and twice on Sunday over some euro unknown that Givony tries to pimp.
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hes been playing PG this year due to an injury in the euroleague and adriatic league, hes not molasses slow, i can assure you of that. Id hope hes in play with 2nd rounder. Bogdans shot around 40% from deep for most of his pro career, hes long enough to be a bother plays tough and crafty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip3m1cUK-Tk

imo he compares favorably to a player like Evan Fournier
 
Vermin said:
NM. Just looked at draft express and they already have him at 23, so the rising has already begun.
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I could see him going as high as late lottery. His age is somewhat a factor.

There's going to be some really solid guys drafted in the middle of this draft. Maybe even later.
 
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is that a regulation sized ball ?
 
I think the biggest upside outside the concensus top8 aka the "best of the rest" have James Young, Dario Saric and Mario Hezonja in case he declares.

With Young it's a lot of background check.
Teams know his college shot selection and lackluster defense.
Everybody also knows that he's got the body and skills to be very good potentially. So if a team considers him in the low teens, they'll have to do a background check going back to his kindergarten and stuff to make sure he isn't JR Smith's secret soul mate.

With the internationals that's obviously a lot harder. Saric might get picked pretty early as well due to his achievements with Cibona Zagreb.
 
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