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Sorry to be a pest but can one of you smart draft followin dudes give me a height, vert, wingspan, and standing reach comparison for alec burks, exum, lavine, and smart all in one easy to read post?
 
I have no idea what burks measurements were..... im just curious how he stacks up.

Seems like i remember hearing that he had a big wingspan or something
 
For fishbro:

Smart

Height: 6'3.25"
Wingspan: 6'9.25"
Standing reach: 8'3
Weight: 227 lbs
No step vert: 33"
Max vert: 36"

Exum

Height: 6'6"
Wingspan: 6'9.5"
Standing reach: 8'7"
Weight: 196 lbs
No step vert: 31.5"
Max vert: 34.5"

Burks

Height: 6'6"
Wingspan: 6'10"
Standing reach: 8'7.5"
Weight: 193 lbs
No step vert: 29"
Max vert: 36"

LaVine

Height: 6'5.75"
Wingspan: 6'8.25"
Standing reach: 8'4"
Weight: 181 lbs
No step vert: 33.5"
Max vert: 41.5"
 
Perfect spy.
Thanks bro. I will rep tomorrow.
Its bedtime (have to be up for work at 5 a.m.)
Im off to dream of trey throwin oops to burks and wiggins on the fast break.
 
PKM said:
@pb £ j

What do u make of young??
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as far as his combine? he didnt participate in shooting or athletic drills so theres not too much. I was hoping for a better vertical than 35½" but thats plenty, a 7' wingspan, 213lbs and 5.3% body fat... his numbers are basically spot on Xavier Henry's
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
as far as his combine? he didnt participate in shooting or athletic drills so theres not too much. I was hoping for a better vertical than 35½" but thats plenty, a 7' wingspan, 213lbs and 5.3% body fat... his numbers are basically spot on Xavier Henry's
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Lol.. nice cherry pick. Having said that.. yeah.
 
These were all posted yesterday:

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Here is an easy way to compare all three of these guys:

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fishonjazz said:
Im pretty scared of embiid right now too.

I heard that his agents are trying to manipulate what team he goes to and are only allowing certain team doctors to check him out
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Embiid might be the next Oden. He hasn't played since March 1st, and correct me if I'm wrong, didn't the injury require surgery? IMO, the risk of drafting him is just too great. Maybe he becomes the next Olajuwon. Or maybe he never plays a game - or has back issues that hamper him for his entire career. Jazz can't afford to choose a bust in this draft. If I were DL, I'd take Embiid off my draft board.
 
Dante Exum's ¾-court sprint time was faster than Chris Paul's, Stephen Curry's and Damian Lillard.

Noah Vonleh has the biggest hands in the draft.

Zach LaVine is the only player to finish in the top-10 in every category (lane agility, shuttle run, ¾-court sprint, standing vert and max vert).
 
Core4 said:
Embiid might be the next Oden. He hasn't played since March 1st, and correct me if I'm wrong, didn't the injury require surgery? IMO, the risk of drafting him is just too great. Maybe he becomes the next Olajuwon. Or maybe he never plays a game - or has back issues that hamper him for his entire career. Jazz can't afford to choose a bust in this draft. If I were DL, I'd take Embiid off my draft board.
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I read somewhere that his injury was pretty common and that other players like davis has had it too.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
Re: the three players who skipped the combine.

Wiggins - as the consensus #1, had nothing to gain by going

Parker - who knows if he's put on 15-20 pounds. Whether he has or hasn't, the combine simply isn't where he shines. He's have a slow sprint, a slow lane agility, probably a less than impressive vertical, body fat wouldn't look good. Dude is a lock for top 4, probably near lock for #2. The combine isn't his cup o' tea.

Embiid - he's the one I worry about. If he's healthy, goes to the combine, comes in at a legit 7' or 7'1", long wingspan, jumps and runs well and proves he's in great health, he might have a shot at stealing Wiggin's #1 slot. My gut has always been, and with him missing the combine, I feel even more strongly that dude isn't healthy. I love Embiid's size, athleticism, toughness, demeanor - everything. But I don't what anything to do with an injured big man.
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Teams will measure him and stuff. Just looking bad for the public. Nothing else. If you also have listened to any Embiid interview ever the agent might have been inclined to not let him interview with teams yet for obvious reasons.

PKM said:
@pb £ j

What do u make of young??
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His athletic testing was really underwhelming. In line with his performance all year. I still wonder where his athletic highlights out of highschool came from. Doppelgänger?

fishonjazz said:
Im pretty scared of embiid right now too.

I heard that his agents are trying to manipulate what team he goes to and are only allowing certain team doctors to check him out
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Would make sense. If I grew up in Cameroon I think I wouldn't like Wisconsin too much... :p

PointGod_AlecBurks said:
as far as his combine? he didnt participate in shooting or athletic drills so theres not too much. I was hoping for a better vertical than 35½" but thats plenty, a 7' wingspan, 213lbs and 5.3% body fat... his numbers are basically spot on Xavier Henry's
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Also surprised how bad Jordan Adams athletic numbers were as well as TJ Warren's and DeAndre Daniels'. (I also don't put too much weight into athletic testing)

Core4 said:
Embiid might be the next Oden. He hasn't played since March 1st, and correct me if I'm wrong, didn't the injury require surgery? IMO, the risk of drafting him is just too great. Maybe he becomes the next Olajuwon. Or maybe he never plays a game - or has back issues that hamper him for his entire career. Jazz can't afford to choose a bust in this draft. If I were DL, I'd take Embiid off my draft board.
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I think I'd take Dante Exum and try to trade Trey Burke for someone else next year unless unrealistic meteoric rise.
 
Core4 said:
Embiid might be the next Oden. He hasn't played since March 1st, and correct me if I'm wrong, didn't the injury require surgery? IMO, the risk of drafting him is just too great. Maybe he becomes the next Olajuwon. Or maybe he never plays a game - or has back issues that hamper him for his entire career. Jazz can't afford to choose a bust in this draft. If I were DL, I'd take Embiid off my draft board.
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I'm more in line with your thinking. He's either #1 or #2 on the board because the GM is extremely confident there are no health issues or he's not on the board for the lottery pick at all. If you aren't supremely confident in his health, you simply can't afford the risk.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
Noah Vonleh's vertical is 2" less than Aaron Gordon's, does that change any opinions on 5-6-7-8-9 ?
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I see little separation physically between the three Randle, Gordon, and Vonleh. It just depends how you see the guys fitting into your team.

Gordon's glaring weakness is his shooting but he might be the best guy if you are going to be a running team. He will be a liability if he plays the four simply because he can't shoot and his FTs are horrible. If he plays the SF his outside shooting will be a hinderance. I think Gordon is a classic tweener I think he is going to need to put some weight on or learn to shoot from outside.

Randle - measurements overall were a surprise. His athleticism is better than I thought but I still think he will struggle if he doesn't develop a nice 15 to 18 ft jumpshot. I think the Jazz would have to get rid of either Favors or Kanter if they were going to get Randle. I worry about him being too predictable on offensive and his glaring weakness is defense.

Vonleh - is the most intriguing guy to me because of his size and youth. Throw in a nice jump shot. His athleticism was surprisingly better than expected. My main concern is his motor. I don't know if he was just being ignored at Indiana or he was just playing passively. Overall I think right now he has the more balanced game between the three. He has a raw but potentially a prototype NBA PF game with the ability to go outside and inside. His rebounding is very strong and I am sure his big hands help with that. Defensively, I don't think he is great but he certainly is better than Randle. I know that isn't saying much but I think he has potential for a defender. HE moves well and has great size and length.

I think I am leaning more towards Vonleh but since I don't get to see the private workouts or interviews I could be wrong about that choice. I think all three have pluses and minuses but I would be shocked if anyone of them didn't have a decent career. I just feel the Jazz are going to get a very good player with their lottery pick.

There were some other guys who impressed me at the combine. I know one has to be careful about putting too much weight on the combine but I really think there are some solid role players at 23 and 35 potentially.

I am intrigued with Alec Brown. He shot the lights out and could be a stretch four. Robinson III played well too.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
I'm more in line with your thinking. He's either #1 or #2 on the board because the GM is extremely confident there are no health issues or he's not on the board for the lottery pick at all. If you aren't supremely confident in his health, you simply can't afford the risk.
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A greg oden type situation would be devastating.

Its aamazing that portland had brandon roy happen, oden, and then drafted mccolum (injured) and still made it to the second round of the playoffs
 
I don't get what's wrong with having 2 PGs play at once. Isn't that how the NBA is going these days?

Crawford/Paul
Harden/Lin
Parker/Ginobli
Westbrook/Jackson
Curry/whatever
Dlil/Mo

I think having 2 guys who can create and score out an enormous amount of pressure on defenses. If you can surround them with shooters and a defensive big to anchor the team, you're looking at a real dynamic and entertaining team.
 
The Thriller said:
I don't get what's wrong with having 2 PGs play at once. Isn't that how the NBA is going these days?

Crawford/Paul
Harden/Lin
Parker/Ginobli
Westbrook/Jackson
Curry/whatever
Dlil/Mo

I think having 2 guys who can create and score out an enormous amount of pressure on defenses. If you can surround them with shooters and a defensive big to anchor the team, you're looking at a real dynamic and entertaining team.
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Bledsoe/Dragic. Bottom line is most SGs aren't good enough in the post to really take advantage and posting SGs isn't really part of most offenses, so even if teams try to take advantage even for a stretch, they won't really go back to it much.
 
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