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green said:
My point is, he is crazy athletic but isn't great at anything. So people assume crazy athleticism = great defender.

But, when you go back and look at his defense, he's isn't that special. He won't come in and shut down anyone year one.

So, if you don't know if he can shoot, you don't know if he can pass, you don't know what position he will play, you don't know if he can dominate a game, and you don't know if he can defend anyone...then what do you know?

He's young, athletic and teachable. That's a pretty big risk to take at #5 for a team like Utah.

I wouldn't touch him. I think at 5 you go Smart. Maybe Vonleh. Utah has to come away from this with an All Star. I don't ever see Gordon being an all star.

My wish list is:

Embiid
Parker
???????????
Smart/Wiggins/Exum (I'd have to be at the workouts to know better)

If there is any shot you can get Parker, you do it. I'd give up Burks, Kanter #5, the rest of this year's picks and a future first.

Without a star, you have nothing. We have nice pieces, but without a star they = nothing.
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Yea one star will not get it done and there is question that Parker is a star. The difference between Parker and Gordon isn't so great you trade away half the team. Watch the new video on Gordon. His shot looks vastly improved.
 
Catchall said:
Well, here's Aaron Gordon working out. You see a sequence where he hits 2 long jumpers in a row, without editing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_2354862107&feature=iv&src_vid=CX1y_t7IoQs&v=jC52lEJGNo4
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Thanks for the video.

Thats my guy at 5.
That jumper is looking good.... handles too.

He looks like he has added some muscle
 
Just watched this vid, yes I commented before without watching, but he is looking legit. Seen him through HS and now he is filling in as a man. A little turned on.
 
I need to see a workout with Gordon and Vonleh going against each other.

I also need to see a workout with Exum and Smart going against each other.
 
Catchall said:
I need to see a workout with Gordon and Vonleh going against each other.

I also need to see a workout with Exum and Smart going against each other.
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Vonleh's still pretty raw offensively... you can't really just use that comparison. It's taken Aldridge how long to hit his strides???


Same with Exum...
 
White Chocolate said:
Chad Ford said he could go as high as #7.

Not that big of a fan of his. Can't shoot the ball.

Shot 36% from three and lead the NCAA in turnovers with 127 in 35 games.

That's around 3.6 per game.

If he was there and we took Gordon at #5, we essentially just took two guys who can't shoot.
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Damn, 7, really? I listened to a DX podcast and he said he wouldn't be surprised if he goes late lottery. Sounded like it was a given he is going to move up big though.
 
Catchall said:
There are several shooters that will go in the teens----McDermott, Harris, Stauskas, Young, and Saric. I think they're all gone by 18 though.
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CJ Wilcox can shoot and he should be there at #23

from NBADraft.net

Father, Craig Wilcox, played at BYU … Was under recruited coming out of Utah, blossomed into a high level college scorer who has been on the NBA radar heavily for the past two years … Easily amongst top pure shooters in draft, he also measured out quite well athletically which is a good sign for adaptation to NBA speed … Highly coachable and respected by his peers … Has a draft range of anywhere from late first round to early second, will be great option for teams in need of a rotation shooter who can provide spot minutes immediately ...
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Damn, 7, really? I listened to a DX podcast and he said he wouldn't be surprised if he goes late lottery. Sounded like it was a given he is going to move up big though.
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PKM said:
no way in fuuuu Payton goes 7.. or top 10 for that matter. I'd be shocked with anything higher than 14/15.
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"While he's currently projected by ESPN.com as a mid-first-round pick, I believe he gets a close look in the lottery from the Lakers, Kings, Hornets and Magic. After seeing both Payton and Tyler Ennis live, I like both, but I think Payton has more long-term potential because of his quickness and defensive abilities. The Kings especially seem like a good fit -- especially if Smart is off the board. Payton provides size, defense, a pure point guard mentality, high character -- all the things they are looking for in a point."

Might just be a guess, but I wasn't lying.
 
Also from Chad Ford:

"Payton surprised people by refusing to participate in the drills. Given his limited exposure, some GMs were grumbling about the decision. But they shouldn't. As his stock continues to rise, sources say some teams in the mid-first round were pushing for him not to do the drills. They'd prefer he remain a secret. His measurements and athletic testing numbers were both above average for his position. He also drew raves in his interviews. I believe Payton is the true sleeper in this draft and is being underrated by scouts. Once he gets into workouts, he will work his way into the lottery."
 
White Chocolate said:
Also from Chad Ford:

"Payton surprised people by refusing to participate in the drills. Given his limited exposure, some GMs were grumbling about the decision. But they shouldn't. As his stock continues to rise, sources say some teams in the mid-first round were pushing for him not to do the drills. They'd prefer he remain a secret. His measurements and athletic testing numbers were both above average for his position. He also drew raves in his interviews. I believe Payton is the true sleeper in this draft and is being underrated by scouts. Once he gets into workouts, he will work his way into the lottery."
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That insanely makes no sense.
 
I could watch LaVine dunk all day, I wouldn't even be mad if we took him at #5, purely so I can enjoy the moments he gets open on a fast break
 
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