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Following potential 2014 draftees

heyhey said:
What if we throw in nikkk and a box of condoms?
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Then we would probably have to take back a horrible contract.

Pull the trigger
 
fishonjazz said:
As far as tell us nothing.

Embiids video showed he is probably healthy and that he us more athletic/quicker than i thought.

Jabaris video showed that he is in shape, which eleviated alot of the weight issue questions

Gordons video gave me a bit more faith in his jumper and i believe it showed us that he added muscle
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IAWTP.
1. Embiid's back still needs to be somewhat of a concern, though. Just don't know how he'll be night after night with contact. Doesn't really matter to Utah as he'll be a top-3 pick.
2. IMO, Jabari had the most to gain/lose after the reports of him being out of shape. He's solidified his place in the top-3.
3. Gordon looked good. I wouldn't be disappointed with him or Vonleh at #5.
 
Steve Kyler of Basketball Insiders just said that Exum is a better defender than Smart. Is that true?

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Jazz4ever said:
The Jazz would use a 4 big rotation of Favors and Gobert at center. Vonleh and Kanter at PF. Eventually one gets traded, but we have enough time for them right now.
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PointGod_AlecBurks said:
Vonleh is a great kid, it cant be repeated enough. Theres very little chance the $$ gets to his head, its deeply ingrained in him to be a hard worker. His family moved to the US from Liberia a year before he was born, parents divorced when he was 13 and he grew up watching his mom work 2 nursing jobs and from what i understand she kind of... on his case..

hes got 2 younger sisters and theres a story about his mom saving money for a year to take the family on a dream vacation to disneyland, he got there and didnt want to go on any rides and made his mom find a YMCA to drop him off at for 10 hours a day to play basketball, every day for the 5 day vacation.

thats just how much of a gym rat he is, if you check basketball related boards in the philly/ new england area you will see a thousand, 'holy **** i played this guy in a pickup game' posts. a total gym rat who played 1000's of pickup games to try to improve his game, his coach at IU said if he put a cot in the gym, Noah would never leave, hes very concerned with improving his game.

he finished over 50% of his bachelors this year at IU, also showed up on campus like 2 days after HS graduation, so he could start working right away, he was with Zeller and Oladipo while they were preparing for last years draft, and in the last year or so hes put on over 25lbs, at 18 hes just scratching the surface of his potential but he certainly has the work ethic to make it happen.
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I still want Vonleh, followed by Gordon. Admittedly, haven't seen Exum, but I'd rather add to the big rotation and have Burke, Burks, Hayward and possibly Neto as the guards.

Anyone remember how strong the team was at the 4/5 with Al, Paul, Derrick and Enes?
As Jazz4ever notes, there is time for all 4 right now. Gobert and Vonleh are raw. You could easily have both of them play 15/per behind Favors and Kanter and that would be great for now. Injuries or foul trouble give them more time. Vonleh is a potential Paul George. He may still be growing. Outside the top 4, Vonleh, IMO, has the most potential to be a franchise-type player. The other thing that plays into this is we don't even know if we can re-sign Enes (or want to for what he'll probably want). Eventually we probably do need to decide. There won't be enough $ to pay Favors, Kanter and Gobert. But imagine the trade value of a good big.

I'm on board with drafting Vonleh - if he's available. I think there's a good chance he moves up and pushes Exum down. Then draft or trade the other picks for a good SF.
 
Core4 said:
I still want Vonleh, followed by Gordon. Admittedly, haven't seen Exum, but I'd rather add to the big rotation and have Burke, Burks, Hayward and possibly Neto as the guards.

Anyone remember how strong the team was at the 4/5 with Al, Paul, Derrick and Enes?
As Jazz4ever notes, there is time for all 4 right now. Gobert and Vonleh are raw. You could easily have both of them play 15/per behind Favors and Kanter and that would be great for now. Injuries or foul trouble give them more time. Vonleh is a potential Paul George. He may still be growing. Outside the top 4, Vonleh, IMO, has the most potential to be a franchise-type player. The other thing that plays into this is we don't even know if we can re-sign Enes (or want to for what he'll probably want). Eventually we probably do need to decide. There won't be enough $ to pay Favors, Kanter and Gobert. But imagine the trade value of a good big.

I'm on board with drafting Vonleh - if he's available. I think there's a good chance he moves up and pushes Exum down. Then draft or trade the other picks for a good SF.
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You are also forgetting about Hayward this season. He's likely to be very expensive to retain.
 
da ThRONe said:
You are also forgetting about Hayward this season. He's likely to be very expensive to retain.
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I was counting that in. By the time starters are re-signed, backups will be difficult to retain once they are off their rookie contracts. You look at the money being thrown around for bigs and it's alarming. If you're 6'11" and can walk and chew gum at the same time, you get $8-10M. Whatever the rotation, I like having Vonleh as a stretch-4 opening up the inside for the others.

I really do think after listening to DL talk about players who are still developing skill-wise but have NBA bodies, the pick comes down to Vonleh or Gordon.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];833918 said:
that would shock the **** out of me.

And... who the **** really knows?
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Nobody. Exum might be the best defender in the history of basketball. He might be a poor man's Jimmer defensively.

Kyler is a moran.


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Core4 said:
I was counting that in. By the time starters are re-signed, backups will be difficult to retain once they are off their rookie contracts. You look at the money being thrown around for bigs and it's alarming. If you're 6'11" and can walk and chew gum at the same time, you get $8-10M. Whatever the rotation, I like having Vonleh as a stretch-4 opening up the inside for the others.

I really do think after listening to DL talk about players who are still developing skill-wise but have NBA bodies, the pick comes down to Vonleh or Gordon.
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I think it is really, really early to think DL knows who is picking. I cant wait until the workouts with some of these guys. Thats when this will get interesting.
 
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